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If there's one buzz word about what our churches deeply desire to be, it's "intergenerational."  We all know what it means, right?  And we all know when we've achieved it, right? Right?

As a youth pastor, as an advocate for children, youth, and young adult integration into the full...

April 10, 2012 0 4 comments

As you wrap up your youth group season, it’s a good time to think about active participation in VBS. If your church is running VBS later this summer, consider getting your entire youth group actively involved in the program.  My experience is that this will bring a wonderful energy to the VBS, and it will have a long-lasting impact...

April 9, 2012 0 0 comments

I have blogged in the past about the importance of reformed resources and reformed theology within youth ministry programs.  It’s just as important to have resources with a reformed perspective for the entire congregation.  Faith Alive Christian Resources has come up with a creative idea that will share reformed resources within a congregation AND raise funds for the youth group. Youth groups will earn 40% profit on all books sold through this program. You can check out the program at youthgroupbooksale.org.   

March 26, 2012 0 11 comments

While numbers are an important tool to help a youth worker gauge the relative health of a ministry (I always keep attendance for my own records), high attendance does not always mean that all is well in the group or that youth are being transformed by the Gospel...

March 26, 2012 0 6 comments

OK, so here’s my pep talk for you. You have precious few weeks left in this youth group season. Enjoy these last months and the relationships you’ve nurtured. If anything, it’s time to pick up the pace!

March 19, 2012 0 2 comments

I have a friend that often talks about the 4-14 rule.  He believes that the most fragile population within and outside our churches are those between the ages of 4-14.  The individuals in our communities and our world who know the least about Christ are between the ages of 4-14. The opportunity to reach individuals for Christ is most fruitful in those age 4-14. 

March 12, 2012 0 9 comments

For most of my years in youth ministry, I didn’t do a very good job of bringing our youth group into Lent with an appropriate sense of this incredible season. Anyone got ideas or proven lessons to share?

March 5, 2012 0 1 comments

Any ideas? Our church has paid off our mortgage--yay! They've asked the youth group to come up with a creative (symbolic) way to destroy the mortgage letter at a celebration this Sunday.  I missed my opportunity to survey the YG and wonder if anyone has some great ideas on how to do this? We'll...

March 1, 2012 0 3 comments
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The recent decision by Youth Unlimited to eliminate their paid Canadian youth leader developers because of financial constraints is sparking considerable discussion around water coolers and coffee pots across Canada.

February 25, 2012 0 5 comments

I believe followership is just as important as leadership.  I just wish we lived in a world where the gift of following was recognized and given value as an integral aspect of the Christian life.  When was the last time you highlighted the work of young people who showed dedication, humility and a servant attitude in their followership?

February 20, 2012 0 2 comments

Hi Everyone!

I'm Tim and I'm a volunteer youth worker. One of my students approached me about "wanting more" and wanting to go through a book together with some people. That is awesome! Does anyone have suggestions for books? I have a couple of ideas but I wanted to throw it out there and...

February 19, 2012 0 2 comments

I’ve thought about writing this for a while, but it’s not particularly fun to write about some of my lowest moments as a youth leader. There have been times when youth have given up on our church and our youth group, and I’ve chosen, sometimes consciously and often subconsciously, to give up on them...

February 13, 2012 0 1 comments

Our council is creating a council appreniceship program for mature teenagers to serve on council as either apprentice deacons or apprentice administrative elders.

I'm looking for wisdom in strucutring and developing this program - have any other CRC congregations tried this?  What...

February 8, 2012 0 5 comments

So when it comes to advice and suggestions for events, Youth Leader 101 typically notes that special events, like school, community or national sporting events are often great excuses for getting students together.  The NCAA basketball, known as March Madness, is a perfect example.  Though I would suggest this also makes an outstanding community outreach opportunity.

February 6, 2012 0 1 comments

When I made profession of faith, I decided it was time, alerted somebody at church, and then stood before the consistory while they quizzed me mostly on my faith but with just a bit of Bible trivia as well.  Once I was approved, I stood before the church, said “I do” after the pastor read a long liturgy...

January 30, 2012 0 1 comments

Let me start out by saying my wife and I were volunteer youth leaders for 15 years. But I do think that our church made a mistake in asking for volunteer youth leaders, rather than investing money and resources in staff. I think it implied to many youth that they were not as important as “adults” in the church.

January 23, 2012 0 0 comments
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Youth Unlimited, the Grand Rapids-based parachurch organization that includes GEMS, Cadets and young people, has a serious marketing problem right across Canada.

If you Google Youth Unlimited, you immediately notice two quite separate organizations: the American body connected to the...

January 17, 2012 0 4 comments

I wonder how many youth leaders are in accountability groups.  I would suggest that if you are a youth leader and you are not in an accountability group, you consider doing so.  It’s a very personal decision. I can only tell you that I have been blessed and improved by my group.

January 16, 2012 0 0 comments

This is a topic that’s discussed in consistories/councils, by congregations, Synods, and pretty much anywhere there are church-going folks or church leaders hanging out.  I don’t expect to solve the challenge in a short blog, but I think youth leaders might have a different perspective than many in the church.

January 9, 2012 0 2 comments

Yeah, I know that we, as youth leaders, parents, students, Christ-followers, strive to seek God’s face constantly.  That’s good.  Keep that up.  I just figured that in this first week of a new year, it might be good to push all of the “stuff” out of your head and just simply listen to God.

January 2, 2012 0 3 comments

For some of us who are, well, not so young, there was no texting 10 years ago. For younger leaders, texting has been a part of your lives for much of the past few years. In either case, I wonder if you are using text messages to communicate with your youth group and if not, why not?

December 26, 2011 0 2 comments

I’ve got a friend who feels a lot of pressure to increase participants in youth group and roll out consistently high numbers of profession of faiths among their church young people. Really?  So this is how we measure performance for a youth leader?

December 19, 2011 0 5 comments

Christmas is a couple of weeks away. The focus in most of our homes is on gifts. Youth group students have created long lists of all the items they “need.” My question is this, how do we cover this topic in our youth groups in such a way that we impact thought without instilling guilt?

December 12, 2011 0 1 comments

Most years, the most successful youth group event was the night when we visited shut-ins in our congregation.  It might not have been the most popular youth event going in to the activity, but it was always the best as the night ended. If you haven’t done this, you gotta give it a try.

December 5, 2011 0 1 comments

I’m getting really old. I think it’s kind of funny to see me morph into my parents. But what’s not funny is the content I see and hear on the phones, iPods, iPads, and other communication tools that students are using. I’m trying to figure out how to deal with what I believe is 

November 21, 2011 0 4 comments



Would love to see something new and fresh being offered for the HC.  QWA is a good resource but I have taught this for eight years and would like to see something new.  I'm getting tired of the same old thing!  Questions from the Pickle Jar is exceptional material!  Highly recommend this to any high school youth group!  As for the others I look forward to checking them out, thank you for listing them!

Yes! Thank you!

Hi Kirk.

Yes, the first youth group was largely comprised of Christian school youth. Your challenges with that, and school schedules were the same challenges we struggled with. Your school neutral position is a good one. That's a really good reminder for those of us who are dealing with the same situation.

We also made an intentional effort to let the students that went to the public school talk about their school stuff. When one of our students was in a school play at the public school, we talked the entire youth group into attending the play to show our support and cheer her on. That really pulled our group together.

Thanks Kirk.

Thanks for the reply Ashley. I think it's a great idea to find the common experiences and point them out.  I suspect you also find, as we did, that the more the students hang out together, the less the different schools matter.


I'm curious if the first youth group you spoke of was largely comprised of Christian school youth and the public school youth were having a hard time fitting in?

We struggle with that and have worked hard to consciously not solely base events on the dominate school's schedule (which in our case is a Christian school).  It gets difficult though as school breaks are all over the map.  In our case I think we have two strikes against us in that our Christian school kids not only share their life together 5 days a week and so naturally bond together, but they are also quite sheltered and have a hard time relating to kids that come from public schools--(the exception being public school students that are very active in the church and quite outgoing.)

We have worked hard to include talk of school events going on at all the schools represented even though the local Christian school kids are the largest group represented.  We have also worked hard not to talk as if the Christian school schedule is the only one we need to work around or care about.  This has taken some time and effort, but I think we are reaching a better place of being more "school neutral" and more inclusive of all students.



Our Teen Club consists of 3 kids from a local Christian school, and three kids who go to other schools, but who all know each other from outside of teen club/church. Another layer of complexity in our case is the fact that 5 are female and only one is male. 

The three and three definitely cluster together into little comfort-zone groups, and as leaders, I don't think we ever expect the 6 kids to become fully integrated. However, we are always trying to point out their common experiences to them. If one of the groups is dominating conversation, relating stories of their experiences at school that week, we try to ask the other group if they ever experience similar situations. There are some things that all grade 8 kids have in common: science fair, too much homework, bullying, field trips etc.  By our questions (asking questions is often the number one thing we leaders spend time doing during a teen club meeting!) we try to keep the conversation ping-ponging back and forth between the two groups. I don't know if acknowledging the divide and NOT trying to dissolve it constantly is a good thing, or if it's the best way to keep the kids comfortable within the group. Open to your thoughts!

It's hard when the group is so small to purposefully split the kids up into different groups when we plan activities or team sports, because it's so obvious to them what we're doing! Thankfully, they have been very graceful about that; even though we know THEY know what's going on, they don't complain or point it out. 

I'm looking forward to seeing what others respond to this post!

No problem Scott, The "demands of parenting"  is pretty subjective. Scott ,I  would use it to describe discipline required to raise children in a constantly changing environment . The calling of raising your children is extremely important.


I know I'm reviving an old thread... but I'm interested in hearing more about how the "demands of parenting" has increased. What do you mean when you say this?

Thanks guys!


Good questions Paul,

    When I think of investment in youth, I think of quality time. As a parent, that is our greatest gift to our children. Parents need to involved in youth groups or youth need to be involved adult groups.

  Throughout history until the 20th century,  Adults and youth were not separated to degree we are now. How do we hope our children will mature into solid Christians if we don't go to their level and demonstrate our lives?

  Paul , I feel bad for youth pastors. You guys have a very difficult job doing what is a parents mission by covenant. God bless you Paul


Good conversation Guys. I can relate to the advantages of having our beliefs summarized in confessions. We take for granted how these creeds arm us for interaction by making Biblical truths easier to understand.


Hey Nicole, hope this question isn't out of your mind yet.  We have used annual themes and semi-annual themes. And for our leadership team, this really helps them tie the year together, and assist the group through an exploration journey of sorts.  

For example, this year our theme is "Going The Distance", based on 1 Cor 9:24. "Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize."  And then we broke it down, paralleling the life of a Christian to a marathon runner.  Motivation, the prize, teammates, clothing, nutrition, warming up and chiseling, obstacles, perseverance, endurance, obsession, adrenaline rush, fatigue, finishing well.  Pictures, theme ideas, scripture passages, events, guest speakers - lots of things quickly find their place!  Having an overall theme opens the doors for creativity!  

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Thanks for sharing.

Praise God!

So you've found that the HC is not only relevant but an essential tool in your ministry to youth. How cool is that.

Hey Ty, nice to hear from you.  It's been a long while since we've talked.

I'm wondering if you find traction in your youth ministry around our creeds and confessions and the Lords Prayer. Does this "preach" to youth?  You relate as well as anyone I know to youth groups, so I wondered if you've found ways to pull this material into youth meetings and education.

Thanks Jory.  Well stated.

Within the Reformed Church, the discussion of the Belhar took place over the past few years.  I can tell you that passion around the Belhar came from many areas of the church, but found tremendous energy in the church planting, multiracial, AND youth ministries. 

If there was one area that, looking back, was pretty much ignored in my catechism classes (a long time ago), it was social justice.  Maybe that was just my experience in my church. 

Just thought I would share my experience...

I'm working with kids involved in the juvenile justice system.  They often ask me for "scriptures" that they can use to understand the faith better.  I find them in the HC.  They also struggle with idenity with families and gangs.  Who do they "belong" to?  What better answer than to a FAITHFUL SAVIOR, Jesus Christ.  I find the HC a treasure chest for a very personal relationship with our Savior.

Paul and Ty,

I agree that it is all of us together.  However, I believe it is primarily the church's job to give the parents the proper tools and instructions so they can teach their children at home.  As these things have been thrown out with the "bathwater" to use your term, a dichotomy has unfortunately developed between the church and the home.  This is where faith, the Bible and religious teaching is done at church, and sadly less and less taught at home.  When one's relationship with Jesus and their faith should permeate their lives, it has been limited, (not in all cases), to Sundays and perhaps on Wednesday nights at youth group (where sadly I have been seeing more social time then teaching of God's Word).

I wholeheartedly believe in the wisdom scripture that says, "Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it."  Proverbs 22:6  However, alongside many life lessons, if that child does not see Mom and Dad practicing it, or hear them talking about it, teaching it, living it..... It is just not enough for the church to be responsible for it alone.

Having said that, I believe that our confessions, creeds and prayers are exactly those tools that we can give to parents so they can teach their children what it means to be a christian and to be reformed.  Now we only need to teach the parents.

Now to make my point I need to tell you a little about myself.  I am 25 years old and still single.  My family does not come from a Christian heritage.  It was through the mentorship of people in the church I started attending when I was younger, and God's grace that I am where I am today.  I am thoroughly reformed and believe that our confessions are very important, because while the Bible is the authority and the confessions are subject to it, they help me to say, "this is what I believe... Here I stand".

The reason this topic caught my attention was because last night I attended a discussion on the Belhar Confession, and if it should be adopted as a new confession by the CRC Church. I was greatly saddened to see that out of everyone in attendance, I was one of the only people there under the age of 45, perhaps even 55. 

It is my generation and the ones following after me that will have to deal with the long term consequences of this decision. Good or bad, adding another confession to our denomination after 400 years is no small thing.  It should be heavily weighed, discussed and prayed about, and the younger generations not only hardly seem to know what it is about, but frankly do not care.  We have become a confessionally illiterate church.  

As you both have stated above, I believe that our confessions are not only still relevant today, but that it is paramount that we begin to emphasize what it is that we believe as a "Reformed" church, or soon we will not be one.  So perhaps, before we start looking at adding a new confession, we should remember first what confessions we have, and what they really mean. 

Thank you and I am interested to hear your response,





It's all of us, together, teaching the catechism, the faith, our biblical worldview, to our children!

It's unfortunate so many of us balked at our catechism instruction when we were young, but it's amazing theological and biblical treasures that we have lost in the rush to contemporize our church.  What about contemporizing the basic, foundational parts of our faith and sharing that rich treasure with our children?

We have seemed to thrown out or fogotten about...

the Lord's prayer

the understanding of the law



...and so much more with the bathwater over the last decades.  Not everywhere, not all places, but in far to many churches we've let the pendilum swing too far to experience and away from biblical, theological grounding.  Even as an adult youth pastor, I need to be refreshed in my own understanding and abilities to communicate the timeless truths of our biblical, reformed heritage in a relevant way to my students and our families. 

The good gifts that God gives us in this thinking from the past need to be passed along to the next generation to embrace and explore as a foundation for their faith.

I too Paul, have many more questions and concerns about how we do this well and in ways that will allow it to speak to the students we love and work with today!

Thanks for the thoughts.

Ty Hogue

Youth Pastor • Harderwyk Ministries, Holland

Thank you Marcel for your excellent work and contributions to the Network! I appreciated it. =) Stan

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Welcome Paul,

   Well Paul, I married a Methodist 31yrs. ago and I haven't been totally corrupted. Anyway, backgrounds are moot to Jesus, so thanks for accepting the challenges of being a moderator. 



Yes i think that the catechism is a great tool of which to learn the word of God, but it also helps us to understand the word of God as well as answer the question that we may have about the word of God.

Thank you so much, Marcel, for sharing our vision for this even before it was built (talk about faith!). You'll alway be the inaugural Youth Ministry Network guide!

Thanks for helping build the foundation over the past year, and we look forward to your continued participation here and on other parts of The Network.

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Thanks Marcel, You did a great service for the Lord.

God bless you


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I have the full support of my Pastor and the Church board on this.  I have so far acquired the shelving and some mateerials from donations.  I welcome you suggestion on any resources that I can acuire the the initial start up and also what cataloging system do you use.


What questions do you have about starting a church library? There are some resources I can point you to or share with you what we have done at our church. 

That is great that you supply your youth with material. My kids have always been big readers. They would read no matter what. But it has been teachers or other adults who have directed them to a good read or resourse. 

That is great!

I really like this article; not just for youth but for all of us. Learning to recieve from the Lord all the goodness that he has for us is a real challenge; especially in a world where we are pressured to perform (and hide if we don't meet standards). it makes me think of Psalm 23. Our Good Shepherd provides all we need, He makes us lie down to rest and leads us to the green fields and quiet waters where He can refresh our souls. Then, contented and peaceful, we can follow Him along his paths for the honor of his Name (even through dark valleys). Even there He feeds us, our cup overflows, and his goodness and love follow us all our lives until we live with Him in heaven forever. What could be better than that! This is the Lord that we all need to experience. Space to rest and receive is golden.

Hi all,  For what it's worth as the youth director I maintain a small library of books that I own and/or purchase on behalf of our youth ministry right in our youth facility (it's a small building right next to our church).  I have check-out cards in them and regularly recommend them to youth in general as well as when one of the youth has specific questions that a book we have addresses.  It seems to go in spurts as far as youth reading them, but quite a number have been read.

I am in the process of establishing a new library at our Church and would like to have some ideas to get going.  Suggestions are welcome and any aspect of church library.

Hello Chris,

  Great observation about how we Christains sometimes can't see the plank in our own eye's. I have noticed this in how we look at the world in general.  I know at my best I fall so short of what God truly demands. Good thing we have Grace from the Lord.



Great article, and a great no-nonsense approach to a real problem. I would add another angle: by sticking to God's standard on this, you give the entire church body an example to follow--and there are just not enough of those examples! I really believe that just the one issue of gossip can make a church completely ineffective. And the problem is that most people guilty of gossip would never in their wildest dreams believe they have actually gossiped. And why would they, when everyone more or less has the same compromised standard? But that all changes when one person consistently and lovingly refuses to participate. Just one example can reach out beyond just the ministry you're involved in, and start to affect the entire church.

Hi Ken,

Thanks for the reply! Yes - social media can be a way to build better networks between the various ministries/silos! The potential is there but we aren't doing it yet. Just this CRC network alone - we are still having silos here - youth ministry forums, disability forums, leadership forums, church planting forums, campus ministry forums, etc. I hope I am proven wrong, but I think there's still silos even in the virtual world! People are still mainly talking within their own ranks. It happens all over the internet.

I totally agree with you that youth needs to be given leadership roles in church - a sign of whether someone actually belongs or is accepted into community is when they are allowed to lead/serve in some capacity, and not only being served or ministered to. This goes across the board - to youth, to seniors, to people with disabilities, to women, to ethnic minorities, etc. When these people are allowed to serve the community with their gifts and not only receiving ministry from the community, that is a true sign that they are an authentic part of the community, and not merely "customers" or marginal to the community.

God bless you too Ken.

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Hi Nicole, Have you asked them? Just a thought.


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H iShaioi ,You are on to something important to the church in general. Communication could be acheived in our networked word via social networks or a clearing house type website that is denominational in scope. It we be easy to enter info on your youth leaving the home church and then the campus ministry could just check if anybody is entering your school.

 I sure there are many other idea's out there. We just need some inertia to think out of the box and some faith to implement new methods of youth care.

 This much I know from my children, If we pay more attention and incorperate youth to church activities including leadership, the youth will return. They just feel like wall candy when it comes to regular corperate worship. Sure children make a lot mistakes but that is how some of us learn.

Thanks Shiao, for your efforts, I know God is watching you and placing these idea's in your mind. God bless you


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Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Marcel. 

Certainly, it's not easy to move from the frustration of "When is enough, enough?!?!" to the peace of God. I've found that these same verses (incl. 2:26-27) have provided me with peace in times of struggle, worry, and frustration. 

Yet while this may not have been the intention of your blog post, I wonder how best to communicate that sense of peace to our youth, who are at least as worried as any generation before them yet who are not (in my experience) as likely to appreciate someone bandaging a hurt with Bible verses...

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When I was a youth pastor, I would hold a parent dessert meeting to talk about the upcoming year and how we could work together (not just events but personal issues).  I also did quarterly training stuff geared towards parents.  I would pick hot topics (drinking, porn, talking to kids about sex, etc.) and bring in someone to educate them.  They really appreciated it.

I think EVERYONE should read this book (When Helping Hurts) not just those considering short term missions. It's about the way we see one another, including the people that live down the street or across town. Read it; it's great.

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The book "When Helping Hurts" by Brian Fikkert and Steve Corbett specifically addresses this topic in the chapter "Doing Short-Term Missions Without Doing Long-Term Harm." I encourage those considering a short-term missions trip to read this book. See the book's companion website http://www.chalmers.org/when-helping-hurts/index.php.

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Thanks for the idea, Ken! Our church's ministry coordinator encouraged me to follow up and share the name and some info about our youth prayer partner ministry (in case anybody needs ideas for names or guidelines for establishing a prayer partner ministry).  We decided to go with Prayerforce since it was a name the youth created and really liked.  Here is a link to the logo that was created specifically for this ministry:  http://lh6.ggpht.com/_yPhBc6anA1o/TTeFYyTz6LI/AAAAAAAACi4/e5gupb0qysk/s800/prayerforce.png

To get adults to join we made a request from the pulpit on a Sunday a.m., used bulletin announcements and e-mail reminders and finally personally asked individuals (when we realized we were only halfway there).  Each adult receives a card that includes information about their youth partner (grade, school, hobbies, cell #, and address) to make it easier to be in contact with them and to pray for them, a reminder list of what being a Prayerforce partner entails, and a picture of their youth.  We also included a reminder about the safe church policy so adults are not meeting with youth individually.  (All of the information fit on a small enough piece of paper so it could be pasted onto the back of each youth's pix.)

Valentines Day is coming up and I thought that I would share something that has worked well for our group. We hosted a "Show Your Love Dinner". We recruted someone from the church who could help us plan and cook a wonderful tasty menu. We advertized by putting colorful flyers in the church mail slots along with info on how to make reservations. We decorated our fellowship hall and set the tables nicely. Our youth wore black pants and white tops to take orders and serve the food. Church members showed their love to each other by taking someone to dinner, to the youth by buying tickets and coming out to support us. The youth showed thier love to other youth by donating the money raised to youth in Malowi so that they could afford to go to school.  ( I could give more details if anyone is interested in trying this with there group)  It was so succesful we did it again the next year.    

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I have been at Friendship Chapel for 14 years making youth ministry my vocation 5 years ago.  Some key things that I have learned to avoid burnout include, Making sure I take a day off.  I used to take Friday's off but found I was still going to athletic events, retreats, and other Friday evening events. In essence it wasn't a day off.  I now take Monday's off and find that the break away is very nice & refreshing.  Keeping a folder with positive cards, notes, email's and reminders have also helped.  When things seem to be getting tough, I go back to that folder and read some of the positive things that people have appreciated.  Realizing it's ok to say "No"  has also been huge. If a meeting is scheduled on my day off, chances are i won't be there.  People come and ask for me to organize an idea that they have.  Helping rake leaves in someone's yard or organize a Christmas program.  I simply ask them to organize it or at least be involved in helping with it.  These are just a few things that may help.  

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Marcel, You bring up a pressing topic. I think we need to chang the structure so there is a large parent envolvement. If you have a paid youth leader, all the better. One person or couple will burnout rapidly just due to the energy differences. The key is getting parents to value there children enough to set aside two evenings a month for the churches youth.

  The youth need to be incorparated in most facets of the church. This has to be a joint effort. Including all ages< so we can build community in the churches body. The possibilities are endless.



Thanks for your comment Ken. I agree, as a parent, we can not invest enough into our children. We also can not show enough appreciation for the youth workers who invest in their lives!

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This is such an inspiring words. Our name are parts of who we are , it gives significance on how people may know us. It does gives additional definition to who we are and gives proof that we exists for we do have something to be called and be known of. But naming a person or a thing is as valuable as its existence is. Just like the many names of God that different sects use to call him. it does not only gives praise to God but also shows how people know him and what does God meant to them. Let us all give praise to his name in this special time of the year which is the Holiday season.

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Marcel, two more indoor ones, one is about trust I would think.

Have a strong board about 3 feet long, put it on two hymnbooks or bibles (for a strong foundation!) so that two strong boys one on each side can lift it. Another kid stands in front of it, facing the board then bring in someone who has not seen what is going on and tell them that they have to stand on the board, put their hands on the shoulder of the boy standing in front of him/her and tell her that she will be lifted up until she touches the ceiling with her head, then she has to jump of, oh, and she/he has to do that blindfolded. Than the two boys on the sides will lift the board a couple of inches, shaking the board a bit like it is a heavy lift, the one standing in front with the girl's/boy's hands on his shoulder starts to go through his knees at the same time the board is lifted, giving the impression that the board is getting lifted high. Some one tall enough holding a heavy book will touch the top of the head of the one standing of the board, who is then told to jump of, it's scary! even though they are only a few inches from the floor.

Another favourite birthday game was, to have some people out of the room, put up some bottles in a row, far enough apart so that you can step over and in between them, then bring one of the kids from the other room and tell them that they have to step over the bottles without knocking them down, they can have a practice run, after which of course they will be blind folded, put in front of the bottles, who are now taken away, then watch them carefully step over nothing.

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Hi Marcel, sorry for the delay, I am getting lost on the website and it takes some time to find what I am looking for. So, this string across the canal?, I was afraid you were going to ask, mischief in our younger days, pestering the town folks a bit, the good thing was that we never damaged property or injured anyone. The button on the end would tick on the window when we pulled the string and the person in the house would come and see, nothing and again, he came after us but he had to walk to the bridge up the road to get at us, we were long gone, so, not a good game for the church I guess. A physical game we played in school we called "scissors" would work for 8 - 10 year old kids, we did it in the town square, no cars around in those days, all the kids are in the square, one is "it" and tries to touch another kid, now there are two, holding hands. They try to catch some one else who is than added to the scissor which is getting longer each time someone is caught, every one is running around trying to avoid the scissor which eventually starts to encircle groups of kids (depending on how many are playing of course), we had lots of fun doing that                                                                                                                                                

Another favourite was I'll put it in Dutch, you have to find a way to put it in English "Bok, Bok, hoeveel horens op je kop?", the bok being a male goat or deer, the question being asked from the goat is how many horns there are on it's head (kop).  The game starts with one boy or girl being the goat, they are standing bend over by a railing or table and someone jumps on it's back sticks up a number of fingers and asks the goat how many horns it has on it's head, if guessed wrong the next person jumps on and asks the same, untill the goat guesses the right number, the one sitting on its back now stands behind the goat, bend over, holding on to the goat. The next person now has to jump on the second goat and must try to climb to the first one, again asking the question, if guessed right, on to the line he or she goes. The longer the line the more difficult it is to get to the front to ask the question, the boys even had the opportunity to wiggle and shake in order to try to throw off the one climbing over them, pretty interesting to see what everyone tries to do to reach or prevent someone from reaching the front goat.

Then one we did in the gym, I have done it with the kids at the Christian school here is called "Raisins in the pan, any number can play, the big circle in the middle, which most gymnasiums have I think would be the pan, one part of the middle line would be the handle of the pan, this line can not be crossed going either way. One kid is chosen to be the baker, he/she is allowed to run everywhere in the gymnasium, all the others are the raisins, they can run everywhere except over the pan's handle and in the pan. The baker touches  a raisin, and it goes in the pan for the remainder of the game which ends when all raisins are caught.

There you have three Dutch games I played during the mid 1950s, ready for one more mischief story?

My parents ad a grocery/fabric store, through our village runs a canal and there are three bridges, two pedestrian on for traffic which was a draw bridge. When we sold enough fabric we would have an empty cardboard tube about 3 feet long, 2" in diameter, now the bridge keeper, hired by the town would sit at home about 250 feet or so away from the bridge and if a boat would come by they would blow their horn and he would come out, go to the bridge, lower the boom to stop traffic and manually wind up the road bed of the bridge, the boat would go trough, put money in the little bag on a pole. like the collection bags we used to have, the bridge comes down, pole goes up and life goes on, he returns to his house and waits for the next boat, this happened frequently. We would go to the next bridge, use the tube as a horn, since this man was so accustomed to doing it, he wouldn't even look, go through the motions up to and including putting the collection bag out, no boat! How come they let me still play the organ in church? I don't know, all the best with the games.

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Hi Marcel, Good article. I find that most of this support is in the parent's area of responsibility. As parents we must fully invest ourselves in them at all costs.

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Great ideas.

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Cindy, I'm 67 years old and I still have those questions!  What movies is it ok to watch?   When I'm reading a magazine, how can I keep my eyes and thoughts from "crossing the line"?  When have I gone one bottle of beer too far?  Now granted things are different now than when I was 20.  I'm different and there are different temptations too.  but a lot of the issues are the same, and these questions about morality are still just as vexing.   And where in the world do you look to find some helpful advice?   You want someone who is really believable, and someone who is really biblical, and who is realistic about what it's like to live in 2010!   Soak yourself in the Gospels.  Spend a LOT of time with Jesus.  Let his way of thinking and living drench your mind and heart.   That's the starting place.  And I'm going to say something that is a lot like what Ken and Marcel have said.   Here's the thing - I always tend to ask the question How far is too far?   That is a question that lets me see how close I can drive to the edge and still stay out of the ditch.   But the real question is, How far from the ditch can I drive?    and then the question about HOW CLOSE won't bug me so much.   THAT is a very very hard thing to practice.  I know because I fail at it pretty consistently.  I think we all do.  But that's the right approach to take - not how far from Jesus can I wander and still be ok, but How close can I live to Jesus.    May God empower you and grace you with a new way to live.

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Hi, I agree with Ken - sorry for not responding earlier. These are tough questions that you are asking but I am sure many young adults across North America are asking the same questions - how far is too far with drinking, sexual conduct etc. As Ken mentioned the Holy Spirit must be your guide.  Dig deep into God's Word - it speaks to every situation. The more you understand Scripture the easier the decisions will be. Please don't misunderstand - it's aways tough to make the right decision when other Youth Adults do not have the same convictions as you do when it comes to 'how far is too far'. Be strong, trust God to guide you, be sensitive to His Whisper and move ahead boldly in His name. Constantly read His Word, seek council from the wise people in your life. I wish there was an easy answer but I am afraid there isn't. Jesus said, "Take up the cross DAILY". Blessings to you Cindy.

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Yes, I am familiar with it and actually have the manuel sitting on my desk. Very good material. I have not yet used it or recommended it to any youth group for you to follow-up with. 

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