Retired from the seminary on August 31, 2010. Served 24 years as Professor of Church Polity, eight of those with the additional responsibility of VP for Academic Affairs. Served at Synod of the CRCNA for two years as a delegate and for twenty years as an adviser.
Is there any chance that the monthly payment I receive from the Canada plan can now be direct deposited in my American checking account? My American payment comes that way. Other international agencies including the Canada Pension Plan can do this, so if the Canada MPF plan cannot do it, could someone explain why that is? (This is the only check I receive monthly that I must physically go to my bank for in order to convert the currency and then deposit it.)
You write "If we don’t really know someone or a situation and haven’t done the work to listen deeply, our attempts to relate our concerns or offer a critique or challenge can feel inauthentic and untrustworthy, ..."
Amen. Exactly. But that's where Synods 2022 through 2024 have been very unwise.
But what you are not telling us is that the Church Order holds that councils or consistories have the power to suspend or depose officebearers. Historically classes and synods have never taken the initiative to do this. They have done this only upon appeal. Which is why it is very strange that a synod made up of delegates who have never even met a certain person and never wrestled with him or her in a pastoral and loving way would go ahead and suspend that person anyway after just two or three hours of deliberation on the issue.
The best thing to do here is for Ben to read the Agenda of Synod 2015, the report on deacons and elders. It has an explanation for all things being proposed and is a much more trustworthy source than the memory of a 71-year-old geyser.
As far as I know, the denomination (synod) has never adopted a particular stance on this. But if it tolerated anything less than an honest personal wrestling with the text in its original language and context and with faithful and relevant application to our lives today, I suppose we could close Calvin Theological Seminary for good. There would be no need for biblical studies, for homiletics, for any other theological discipline......... I do know that several classes (I won't say which ones) have taken actions that clearly come down hard on plagiarism. For what it's worth ....
Article 73 (and many others) were amended in 2015. You can find the Acts of Synod under Synod Resources from the CRCNA website. Acts 2015, pages 663-668. The amendments were proposed by a Study Committee working on the offices of elder and deacon.
Cedric is correct about this if we are talking about administering the sacrament. But I distinguish between the administration of the sacrament and the distribution of the elements. Elders typically distribute the bread and wine (though others may assist). A minister or an authorized elder administers them.
As I wrote in my commentary on Article 55:
"I do happen to believe that elders and ministers are free to serve communion to the home-bound or to members in hospitals or rest homes. I don't view these as private celebrations of the sacrament but, rather, as extensions of official worship in the building.
Specifically, I have found it meaningful to have elders or elders' assistants serving such folk the bread and wine while playing tape recordings or DVD's of the service on a Sunday afternoon. That enhances the notion that these actually become "extensions." Then again, our elders sometimes do it in groups of three or four at hospitals or hospice facilities in a very simple ceremony along with prayer over one who is critically ill. This reminds me of James 5:14: 'Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord.' So I have a hard time saying that this violates the order of the church."
According to the Church Order's Article 4 it is the council that shall proceed to ordain/install elders and deacons. The council will typically do this in a worship service and will often ask the senior pastor to lead -- at least in that segment of worship, even if another preaches. But there is no rule that this has to be so. Council is at liberty to ask another ordained minister to lead in that segment or in the entire service. There should be good reasons for that, of course, and councils should obviously not do this without the senior pastor's full consent.
In my book entitled Christian Reformed Church Order Commentary I answer this question directly on page 196. Members can access this on the web library of the CRC.
No, Everett, I can't think of any reason for that. Please consult the last paragraph of p. 119 of my CRC Church Order Commentary. It is the council that is in charge and an ordained minister leading such an ordination is not an absolute requirement.
It may be prudent depending on what the (unusual) circumstances might be. For example, the elders might have discovered something post-council meeting that demands new action that cannot await the next meeting of council. That is an outside the normal bounds possibility. But in most circumstances it would be inappropriate for the elders to do this. According to the Church Order, both elders and deacons report to and are accountable to the full council and only the council may reconsider an issue and reverse a previous decision.
Posted in: Electronic Funds Transfer Authorization Assessments (Canada)
Is there any chance that the monthly payment I receive from the Canada plan can now be direct deposited in my American checking account? My American payment comes that way. Other international agencies including the Canada Pension Plan can do this, so if the Canada MPF plan cannot do it, could someone explain why that is? (This is the only check I receive monthly that I must physically go to my bank for in order to convert the currency and then deposit it.)
Posted in: Why a Denomination: Support and Accountability
Al,
You write "If we don’t really know someone or a situation and haven’t done the work to listen deeply, our attempts to relate our concerns or offer a critique or challenge can feel inauthentic and untrustworthy, ..."
Amen. Exactly. But that's where Synods 2022 through 2024 have been very unwise.
Posted in: Did Synod 2024 Ignore or Violate Church Order?
But what you are not telling us is that the Church Order holds that councils or consistories have the power to suspend or depose officebearers. Historically classes and synods have never taken the initiative to do this. They have done this only upon appeal. Which is why it is very strange that a synod made up of delegates who have never even met a certain person and never wrestled with him or her in a pastoral and loving way would go ahead and suspend that person anyway after just two or three hours of deliberation on the issue.
Posted in: Church Order Article 73
I was just asked to tell someone when Art. 73 was amended.
Posted in: Church Order Article 73
The best thing to do here is for Ben to read the Agenda of Synod 2015, the report on deacons and elders. It has an explanation for all things being proposed and is a much more trustworthy source than the memory of a 71-year-old geyser.
Posted in: Begging, Borrowing—But Not Stealing
As far as I know, the denomination (synod) has never adopted a particular stance on this. But if it tolerated anything less than an honest personal wrestling with the text in its original language and context and with faithful and relevant application to our lives today, I suppose we could close Calvin Theological Seminary for good. There would be no need for biblical studies, for homiletics, for any other theological discipline......... I do know that several classes (I won't say which ones) have taken actions that clearly come down hard on plagiarism. For what it's worth ....
Posted in: When Was Article 73 Amended?
Article 73 (and many others) were amended in 2015. You can find the Acts of Synod under Synod Resources from the CRCNA website. Acts 2015, pages 663-668. The amendments were proposed by a Study Committee working on the offices of elder and deacon.
Posted in: Church Order Q: Can Elder's Perform the Lord's Supper to Those Who Are Sick or Shut-In?
Cedric is correct about this if we are talking about administering the sacrament. But I distinguish between the administration of the sacrament and the distribution of the elements. Elders typically distribute the bread and wine (though others may assist). A minister or an authorized elder administers them.
As I wrote in my commentary on Article 55:
"I do happen to believe that elders and ministers are free to serve communion to the home-bound or to members in hospitals or rest homes. I don't view these as private celebrations of the sacrament but, rather, as extensions of official worship in the building.
Specifically, I have found it meaningful to have elders or elders' assistants serving such folk the bread and wine while playing tape recordings or DVD's of the service on a Sunday afternoon. That enhances the notion that these actually become "extensions." Then again, our elders sometimes do it in groups of three or four at hospitals or hospice facilities in a very simple ceremony along with prayer over one who is critically ill. This reminds me of James 5:14: 'Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord.' So I have a hard time saying that this violates the order of the church."
Posted in: Who Is in Charge of an Ordination Service?
According to the Church Order's Article 4 it is the council that shall proceed to ordain/install elders and deacons. The council will typically do this in a worship service and will often ask the senior pastor to lead -- at least in that segment of worship, even if another preaches. But there is no rule that this has to be so. Council is at liberty to ask another ordained minister to lead in that segment or in the entire service. There should be good reasons for that, of course, and councils should obviously not do this without the senior pastor's full consent.
Posted in: Does the Clerk of Council Have to Be an Elected Elder or Deacon?
Pieter,
In my book entitled Christian Reformed Church Order Commentary I answer this question directly on page 196. Members can access this on the web library of the CRC.
Posted in: Who Is in Charge of an Ordination Service?
No, Everett, I can't think of any reason for that. Please consult the last paragraph of p. 119 of my CRC Church Order Commentary. It is the council that is in charge and an ordained minister leading such an ordination is not an absolute requirement.
Posted in: Reversing Decisions of Council?
It may be prudent depending on what the (unusual) circumstances might be. For example, the elders might have discovered something post-council meeting that demands new action that cannot await the next meeting of council. That is an outside the normal bounds possibility. But in most circumstances it would be inappropriate for the elders to do this. According to the Church Order, both elders and deacons report to and are accountable to the full council and only the council may reconsider an issue and reverse a previous decision.