"For decades both the pharmaceutical companies and even some ethicists have insisted that the abortions to produce the cell lines used in vaccines were not done with that intention, that it was only a couple of abortions from the past and that no further abortions would be needed “now or in the future” to produce vaccines.
“This may be the biggest lie ever told to the American public and the world at large,” said Mrs. Vinnedge. “Not only have there been hundreds of abortions directly involved with vaccine research – specifically for that purpose where they altered abortion methods to obtain intact fetal organs , but we are now seeing more and more abortions for fetal research and new cell lines emerging for viral vaccine cultivation.”
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"... the recent Planned Parenthood videos that have emerged through the Center for Medical Progress, (CMP) showing how live, fully intact fetuses have been harvested for aborted fetal research."
We Don't Vaccinate - Myth and Reality of Vaccine Campaigns: https://vimeo.com/126792405 is an excellent documentary regarding the true facts regarding vaccination.
An important consideration for Christians is the fact that vaccines such as the MMR and chicken pox are made utilizing aborted (murdered) unborn babies. Actually scientists have found a link between vaccines made utilizing aborted unborn babies and autism. http://www.academicjournals.org/journal/JPHE/article-abstract/C98151247042 This is not surprising as autism used to be rare and now it is about 1 in 100 children (and getting worse).
Similar to the link between smoking and lung cancer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOkKNSs2xsQ
Contributing to the tension is the propaganda (fear-mongering) regarding childhood diseases.
Compare the latest hysteria to how measles, for example, was regarded decades ago before mass marketing of the vaccine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDb0ZS3vB9g
I had measles as a child so I am immune for life, compared to temporary immunity from vaccine(s) that wanes. For example recent mumps outbreak amongst vaccinated hockey players. Mumps is more of an issue (for boys) from puberty onwards, therefore it would have been better if they actually had the mumps as boys.
BTW, I wonder what would have been the response/reaction of the pastor if the couple, who were persuaded by the pastor to have their children vaccinated, were to inform him afterwards that their child(ren) had been damaged by the vaccines that the pastor swayed them to get. Did this pastor, you mentioned, consider this possibility?
As someone has said: "We shouldn't be expected to set our children on fire to keep other children warm". As there are risks with every vaccine parents should not be coerced into vaccinating their children.
Where is the love for the vaccine injured children, in the church? Or would they rather deny that it was the vaccine(s) that harmed the child(ren).
No they are not authoritative. However, they do show what the general public feeling was regarding measles, i.e. it was not regarded as a fearsome deadly disease.
Of course Wikipedia could hardly be regarded as authoritative on any subject. It is curious how once they introduce a vaccine then the propaganda starts exaggerating the disease to scare people into vaccinating for a disease that was regarded as benign before vaccination.
Regarding measles cases the Wikipedia you quoted is absolutely false. This graphs shows the reported cases of measles:
Something precious that is lost with mass vaccination is the protection a baby was designed (by God) to receive. When a mother as a child has measles then she has immunity for life and passes on the immunity to her babies. However a vaccinated mother only has temporary immunity and can provide very little if any protection to her children. That is why typically before mass vaccination of childhood diseases mainly elementary school age children are affected. After mass vaccination the most vulnerable tend to be affected, due to inadequate maternal immunity.
In the developing world where children are often severely malnourished a child could die just from a bad cold.
You are assuming that vaccines are actually effective. There have been many cases of epidemic of diseases such as measles and mumps in highly vaccinated environments, with the vaccinated being affected practically just as much as the unvaccinated.
In reality vaccines provide a false sense of security. Also a number of vaccines such as the MMR are live virus vaccines, i.e. can shed the virus for weeks.
The slippery slope continues, it started with murdering the unborn (abortion), now moving towards that other end of life. How long will it be before people are killed against their will, such as is happening in countries that have already gone down this road? Will doctors be expected to 'refer' to another doctor willing to do the dreadful deed, similar to abortions? Thereby violating their freedom of conscience.
Also as Scripture informs us that all the mountains were covered then one would have to believe that this is what happened if you believe it was a local flood. See 'local' flood illustration: http://legacy-cdn-assets.answersingenesis.org/assets/images/articles/wow/local-flood.jpg
This documentary provides plenty of evidence supporting the Global flood account: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XttPuVH4jXc
One can easily determine approximately when the Global flood took place, from Scripture. E.g. see Biblical timeline: http://www.irreligion.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/bible_timeline.gif
There are very interesting geological phenomena around the world. Mountains with or without folds, e.g. the mount that you mentioned: http://www.geo.cornell.edu/geology/classes/RWA/GS_326/photo_galleries/folds/detachment_fold_in_rundle_t.html
There are amazing folds found around the world: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U51MLMQKD7U
Almost without exception folds obviously occurred while still pliable otherwise instead of fold(s) the rock(s) would be all cracked up. This definitely shows rapid formation, e.g. mountains etc. shortly after the flood.
Have you actually looked at the documentary that I recently included a link to? It includes nuclear evidence supporting young earth. Maybe it is time to put aside your prejudice against what the Word of God is plainly telling us.
Of course, the pyramids themselves are amazing. Arrogant 'modern' man thinks that he is so smart. However, exactly how the pyramids were built is still an engineering marvel. Just because we don't understand something fully doesn't mean it didn't happen as described in the Bible. Can you explain how the Red Sea was parted and they walked on dry land to the other side?
Contrary what you're suggesting, casting doubt on the Word of God gives sceptics less reason to seriously consider the Good News. If you are claiming that we can't trust what the Word of God is telling us from the beginning how can you expect the sceptic to believe the Word of God relating to salvation. Could you state from which point in the Bible God is telling us the truth?
The Flood could only be a Global flood as the rainbow was given as a promise that God would never flood the whole earth again. If it was only a local flood, then what about the promise God made as there have been many local floods since. Also it wouldn't be necessary to have an ark if the flood was only local.
Prejudice seems to be the case regarding the scientists you list. There are many more scientists who believe exactly what the Bible says related to origins and the flood etc. Not all scientists compromise regarding the Word of God.
In reality there is only one race, i.e. Adam's race. As all have descended from Adam. Science has already ascertained that actual science correlates with what the Bible says, which of course is not surprising as Almighty God is the ultimate scientist.
The Search for Adam and Eve", was a Newsweek article by John Tierney, Lynda Wright and Karen Springen. This article of January 11, 1988 stated: "Trained in molecular biology, they [scientists] looked at an international assortment of genes and picked up a trail of DNA that led to a single woman from whom we are all descended”.
Maternal mitochondria DNA is passed relatively unchanged in the female line only. Over time, mutations occur in the DNA of humans. How many mutations have occurred since Eve? How fast do mutations occur? In other words, what is the rate at which the mitochondrial DNA clock runs? If the number of mutations since Eve were known, then one could calculate how long ago mitochondrial Eve lived.
"Calibrating the Mitochondrial Clock", is a ‘Science’ article by Ann Gibson. Article of 2nd January 1998 stated: “Mitochondrial DNA appears to mutate faster than expected, prompting new DNA forensics procedures..." For example, researchers have calculated that mitochondrial Eve - the woman whose mtDNA was ancestral to that in all living people - lived ... using the new clock she would have lived a mere 6000 years ago.
If you do not accept this history (Genesis) and prefer to believe that man's body developed as a result of an evolutionary process you are still left with the question of how to explain Eve for the Bible is very particular as to the origin of Eve. D.M. Lloyd-Jones
“And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.” Genesis 2:21-23
Luke traces the family tree down through Heli, father of Mary, mother of Jesus, through David’s son Nathan, until we read in Luke 3:38
“... Seth, who was the son of Adam, who was the son of God.”
Therefore Adam, the son of God is related to the Son of God (our kinsman redeemer).
As Eve is related to Adam, Eve is also related to our kinsman redeemer.
"And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living." Genesis 3:20
Regarding Keith Miller whose book you claim is excellent, professed on the PBS program to be an ‘ardent evangelical Christian.’ He asserted, without evidence, that there are lots of transitional forms. When questioned, he said that God chose Adam and Eve out of other humans that existed. This just shows that the word ‘evangelical,’ like ‘Christian,’ has become debased currency. At one time it meant someone who believed the Reformation (and biblical) doctrines of the inerrancy and sufficiency of Scripture. This is not always so nowadays, and certainly doesn’t apply to Miller.
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Latest - Shocking article regarding 'New Fetal Line from Live Abortion Emerges for Vaccine Production.
http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/new-fetal-cell-line-from-live-abortion-emerges-for-vaccine-production/
"For decades both the pharmaceutical companies and even some ethicists have insisted that the abortions to produce the cell lines used in vaccines were not done with that intention, that it was only a couple of abortions from the past and that no further abortions would be needed “now or in the future” to produce vaccines.
“This may be the biggest lie ever told to the American public and the world at large,” said Mrs. Vinnedge. “Not only have there been hundreds of abortions directly involved with vaccine research – specifically for that purpose where they altered abortion methods to obtain intact fetal organs , but we are now seeing more and more abortions for fetal research and new cell lines emerging for viral vaccine cultivation.”
"
"... the recent Planned Parenthood videos that have emerged through the Center for Medical Progress, (CMP) showing how live, fully intact fetuses have been harvested for aborted fetal research."
Posted in: Tensions in Church Over Vaccinations
We Don't Vaccinate - Myth and Reality of Vaccine Campaigns: https://vimeo.com/126792405 is an excellent documentary regarding the true facts regarding vaccination.
An important consideration for Christians is the fact that vaccines such as the MMR and chicken pox are made utilizing aborted (murdered) unborn babies. Actually scientists have found a link between vaccines made utilizing aborted unborn babies and autism. http://www.academicjournals.org/journal/JPHE/article-abstract/C98151247042 This is not surprising as autism used to be rare and now it is about 1 in 100 children (and getting worse).
Similar to the link between smoking and lung cancer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOkKNSs2xsQ
Posted in: Tensions in Church Over Vaccinations
Contributing to the tension is the propaganda (fear-mongering) regarding childhood diseases.
Compare the latest hysteria to how measles, for example, was regarded decades ago before mass marketing of the vaccine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDb0ZS3vB9g
I had measles as a child so I am immune for life, compared to temporary immunity from vaccine(s) that wanes. For example recent mumps outbreak amongst vaccinated hockey players. Mumps is more of an issue (for boys) from puberty onwards, therefore it would have been better if they actually had the mumps as boys.
Posted in: Tensions in Church Over Vaccinations
BTW, I wonder what would have been the response/reaction of the pastor if the couple, who were persuaded by the pastor to have their children vaccinated, were to inform him afterwards that their child(ren) had been damaged by the vaccines that the pastor swayed them to get. Did this pastor, you mentioned, consider this possibility?
As someone has said: "We shouldn't be expected to set our children on fire to keep other children warm". As there are risks with every vaccine parents should not be coerced into vaccinating their children.
Where is the love for the vaccine injured children, in the church? Or would they rather deny that it was the vaccine(s) that harmed the child(ren).
Posted in: Tensions in Church Over Vaccinations
No they are not authoritative. However, they do show what the general public feeling was regarding measles, i.e. it was not regarded as a fearsome deadly disease.
Of course Wikipedia could hardly be regarded as authoritative on any subject. It is curious how once they introduce a vaccine then the propaganda starts exaggerating the disease to scare people into vaccinating for a disease that was regarded as benign before vaccination.
Regarding measles cases the Wikipedia you quoted is absolutely false. This graphs shows the reported cases of measles:
http://media.historyofvaccines.org/images/999991_540.jpg
This graph shows the US measles deaths which were negligible by the time the vaccine was introduced.
http://www.healthsentinel.com/joomla/images/stories/graphs/us-measles.jpg
Something precious that is lost with mass vaccination is the protection a baby was designed (by God) to receive. When a mother as a child has measles then she has immunity for life and passes on the immunity to her babies. However a vaccinated mother only has temporary immunity and can provide very little if any protection to her children. That is why typically before mass vaccination of childhood diseases mainly elementary school age children are affected. After mass vaccination the most vulnerable tend to be affected, due to inadequate maternal immunity.
In the developing world where children are often severely malnourished a child could die just from a bad cold.
Posted in: Tensions in Church Over Vaccinations
You are assuming that vaccines are actually effective. There have been many cases of epidemic of diseases such as measles and mumps in highly vaccinated environments, with the vaccinated being affected practically just as much as the unvaccinated.
In reality vaccines provide a false sense of security. Also a number of vaccines such as the MMR are live virus vaccines, i.e. can shed the virus for weeks.
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The slippery slope continues, it started with murdering the unborn (abortion), now moving towards that other end of life. How long will it be before people are killed against their will, such as is happening in countries that have already gone down this road? Will doctors be expected to 'refer' to another doctor willing to do the dreadful deed, similar to abortions? Thereby violating their freedom of conscience.
Posted in: Ecumenical and Interfaith Approaches to the Genesis Flood Story
Also as Scripture informs us that all the mountains were covered then one would have to believe that this is what happened if you believe it was a local flood. See 'local' flood illustration: http://legacy-cdn-assets.answersingenesis.org/assets/images/articles/wow/local-flood.jpg
This documentary provides plenty of evidence supporting the Global flood account: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XttPuVH4jXc
Posted in: Ecumenical and Interfaith Approaches to the Genesis Flood Story
One can easily determine approximately when the Global flood took place, from Scripture. E.g. see Biblical timeline: http://www.irreligion.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/bible_timeline.gif
There are very interesting geological phenomena around the world. Mountains with or without folds, e.g. the mount that you mentioned: http://www.geo.cornell.edu/geology/classes/RWA/GS_326/photo_galleries/folds/detachment_fold_in_rundle_t.html
There are amazing folds found around the world: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U51MLMQKD7U
Almost without exception folds obviously occurred while still pliable otherwise instead of fold(s) the rock(s) would be all cracked up. This definitely shows rapid formation, e.g. mountains etc. shortly after the flood.
Have you actually looked at the documentary that I recently included a link to? It includes nuclear evidence supporting young earth. Maybe it is time to put aside your prejudice against what the Word of God is plainly telling us.
Of course, the pyramids themselves are amazing. Arrogant 'modern' man thinks that he is so smart. However, exactly how the pyramids were built is still an engineering marvel. Just because we don't understand something fully doesn't mean it didn't happen as described in the Bible. Can you explain how the Red Sea was parted and they walked on dry land to the other side?
Contrary what you're suggesting, casting doubt on the Word of God gives sceptics less reason to seriously consider the Good News. If you are claiming that we can't trust what the Word of God is telling us from the beginning how can you expect the sceptic to believe the Word of God relating to salvation. Could you state from which point in the Bible God is telling us the truth?
Posted in: Ecumenical and Interfaith Approaches to the Genesis Flood Story
The Flood could only be a Global flood as the rainbow was given as a promise that God would never flood the whole earth again. If it was only a local flood, then what about the promise God made as there have been many local floods since. Also it wouldn't be necessary to have an ark if the flood was only local.
Prejudice seems to be the case regarding the scientists you list. There are many more scientists who believe exactly what the Bible says related to origins and the flood etc. Not all scientists compromise regarding the Word of God.
In reality there is only one race, i.e. Adam's race. As all have descended from Adam. Science has already ascertained that actual science correlates with what the Bible says, which of course is not surprising as Almighty God is the ultimate scientist.
The Search for Adam and Eve", was a Newsweek article by John Tierney, Lynda Wright and Karen Springen. This article of January 11, 1988 stated: "Trained in molecular biology, they [scientists] looked at an international assortment of genes and picked up a trail of DNA that led to a single woman from whom we are all descended”.
Maternal mitochondria DNA is passed relatively unchanged in the female line only. Over time, mutations occur in the DNA of humans. How many mutations have occurred since Eve? How fast do mutations occur? In other words, what is the rate at which the mitochondrial DNA clock runs? If the number of mutations since Eve were known, then one could calculate how long ago mitochondrial Eve lived.
"Calibrating the Mitochondrial Clock", is a ‘Science’ article by Ann Gibson. Article of 2nd January 1998 stated: “Mitochondrial DNA appears to mutate faster than expected, prompting new DNA forensics procedures..." For example, researchers have calculated that mitochondrial Eve - the woman whose mtDNA was ancestral to that in all living people - lived ... using the new clock she would have lived a mere 6000 years ago.
If you do not accept this history (Genesis) and prefer to believe that man's body developed as a result of an evolutionary process you are still left with the question of how to explain Eve for the Bible is very particular as to the origin of Eve. D.M. Lloyd-Jones
“And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.” Genesis 2:21-23
Luke traces the family tree down through Heli, father of Mary, mother of Jesus, through David’s son Nathan, until we read in Luke 3:38
“... Seth, who was the son of Adam, who was the son of God.”
Therefore Adam, the son of God is related to the Son of God (our kinsman redeemer).
As Eve is related to Adam, Eve is also related to our kinsman redeemer.
"And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living." Genesis 3:20
Posted in: Ecumenical and Interfaith Approaches to the Genesis Flood Story
This is an example of evidence of a former land bridge: http://notexactlyrocketscience.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/channel.jpg?w=500&h=290
Posted in: Ecumenical and Interfaith Approaches to the Genesis Flood Story
Regarding Keith Miller whose book you claim is excellent, professed on the PBS program to be an ‘ardent evangelical Christian.’ He asserted, without evidence, that there are lots of transitional forms. When questioned, he said that God chose Adam and Eve out of other humans that existed. This just shows that the word ‘evangelical,’ like ‘Christian,’ has become debased currency. At one time it meant someone who believed the Reformation (and biblical) doctrines of the inerrancy and sufficiency of Scripture. This is not always so nowadays, and certainly doesn’t apply to Miller.