BTW, I wonder what would have been the response/reaction of the pastor if the couple, who were persuaded by the pastor to have their children vaccinated, were to inform him afterwards that their child(ren) had been damaged by the vaccines that the pastor swayed them to get. Did this pastor, you mentioned, consider this possibility?
As someone has said: "We shouldn't be expected to set our children on fire to keep other children warm". As there are risks with every vaccine parents should not be coerced into vaccinating their children.
Where is the love for the vaccine injured children, in the church? Or would they rather deny that it was the vaccine(s) that harmed the child(ren).
No they are not authoritative. However, they do show what the general public feeling was regarding measles, i.e. it was not regarded as a fearsome deadly disease.
Of course Wikipedia could hardly be regarded as authoritative on any subject. It is curious how once they introduce a vaccine then the propaganda starts exaggerating the disease to scare people into vaccinating for a disease that was regarded as benign before vaccination.
Regarding measles cases the Wikipedia you quoted is absolutely false. This graphs shows the reported cases of measles:
Something precious that is lost with mass vaccination is the protection a baby was designed (by God) to receive. When a mother as a child has measles then she has immunity for life and passes on the immunity to her babies. However a vaccinated mother only has temporary immunity and can provide very little if any protection to her children. That is why typically before mass vaccination of childhood diseases mainly elementary school age children are affected. After mass vaccination the most vulnerable tend to be affected, due to inadequate maternal immunity.
In the developing world where children are often severely malnourished a child could die just from a bad cold.
You are assuming that vaccines are actually effective. There have been many cases of epidemic of diseases such as measles and mumps in highly vaccinated environments, with the vaccinated being affected practically just as much as the unvaccinated.
In reality vaccines provide a false sense of security. Also a number of vaccines such as the MMR are live virus vaccines, i.e. can shed the virus for weeks.
Someone has said: "We shouldn't be expected to set our children on fire to keep other children warm". As there are risks with every vaccine parents should not be coerced into vaccinating their children.
There is also the issue of 'Original Antigenic Sin' that makes the vaccinated more vulnerable to the very diseases they were vaccinated against. A vaccinated person is not only able to catch the disease but can even get the disease more than once.
For more info read: http://vaccinechoicecanada.com/resources/books-periodicals/original-antigenic-sin-committed-by-vaccination/
The following excerpt is from the American 1984 DHHS federal register, which listed final rules pertaining to the polio vaccination campaigns in USA after three decades of scandal and misinformation: http://lghttp.32478.nexcesscdn.net/80E972/organiclifestylemagazine/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/vaccine-article.png
"any possible doubts, whether or not well founded, about the safety of the vaccine cannot be allowed to exist in view of the need to assure the vaccine will continue to be used to the maximum extent consistent with the nation's public health objectives"
In other words deny any possible risk of vaccination - just vaccinate. Like putting one's head in the sand and hoping for the best.
The slippery slope continues, it started with murdering the unborn (abortion), now moving towards that other end of life. How long will it be before people are killed against their will, such as is happening in countries that have already gone down this road? Will doctors be expected to 'refer' to another doctor willing to do the dreadful deed, similar to abortions? Thereby violating their freedom of conscience.
The Flood could only be a Global flood as the rainbow was given as a promise that God would never flood the whole earth again. If it was only a local flood, then what about the promise God made as there have been many local floods since. Also it wouldn't be necessary to have an ark if the flood was only local.
Prejudice seems to be the case regarding the scientists you list. There are many more scientists who believe exactly what the Bible says related to origins and the flood etc. Not all scientists compromise regarding the Word of God.
In reality there is only one race, i.e. Adam's race. As all have descended from Adam. Science has already ascertained that actual science correlates with what the Bible says, which of course is not surprising as Almighty God is the ultimate scientist.
The Search for Adam and Eve", was a Newsweek article by John Tierney, Lynda Wright and Karen Springen. This article of January 11, 1988 stated: "Trained in molecular biology, they [scientists] looked at an international assortment of genes and picked up a trail of DNA that led to a single woman from whom we are all descended”.
Maternal mitochondria DNA is passed relatively unchanged in the female line only. Over time, mutations occur in the DNA of humans. How many mutations have occurred since Eve? How fast do mutations occur? In other words, what is the rate at which the mitochondrial DNA clock runs? If the number of mutations since Eve were known, then one could calculate how long ago mitochondrial Eve lived.
"Calibrating the Mitochondrial Clock", is a ‘Science’ article by Ann Gibson. Article of 2nd January 1998 stated: “Mitochondrial DNA appears to mutate faster than expected, prompting new DNA forensics procedures..." For example, researchers have calculated that mitochondrial Eve - the woman whose mtDNA was ancestral to that in all living people - lived ... using the new clock she would have lived a mere 6000 years ago.
If you do not accept this history (Genesis) and prefer to believe that man's body developed as a result of an evolutionary process you are still left with the question of how to explain Eve for the Bible is very particular as to the origin of Eve. D.M. Lloyd-Jones
“And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.” Genesis 2:21-23
Luke traces the family tree down through Heli, father of Mary, mother of Jesus, through David’s son Nathan, until we read in Luke 3:38
“... Seth, who was the son of Adam, who was the son of God.”
Therefore Adam, the son of God is related to the Son of God (our kinsman redeemer).
As Eve is related to Adam, Eve is also related to our kinsman redeemer.
"And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living." Genesis 3:20
Regarding Keith Miller whose book you claim is excellent, professed on the PBS program to be an ‘ardent evangelical Christian.’ He asserted, without evidence, that there are lots of transitional forms. When questioned, he said that God chose Adam and Eve out of other humans that existed. This just shows that the word ‘evangelical,’ like ‘Christian,’ has become debased currency. At one time it meant someone who believed the Reformation (and biblical) doctrines of the inerrancy and sufficiency of Scripture. This is not always so nowadays, and certainly doesn’t apply to Miller.
The flood was definitely global. The ark wouldn't be necessary if the flood was only local. God could have instructed Noah to move away. It would seem rather ridiculous to have a 'local' flood lasting 371 days. Also what about the covenant God made that involves the rainbow. If the flood was only local, what about God's covenant as there have been many local floods since?
Genesis 9: 8 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying, 9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you; 10 and with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth. 11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth. 12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: 13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. 14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: 15 and I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth. 17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.
The Tigris and Euphrates rivers are unlikely the originals. They could have been simply named after original. Just as there is a city named 'London' in Kentucky; Ontario etc. We probably do not have the same rivers today, especially after the total reshaping of the planet that took place during the flood. As they had long life spans especially until the flood, Noah's father was born while Adam was still alive. Noah's family might have named the Tigris and Euphrates rivers as they reminded them of what Adam told Noah's father about the original rivers. BTW, do the current Tigris and Euphrates rivers match the account in Scripture.
Genesis 2:10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. 11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; 12 and the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone. 13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. 14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel(Tigris): that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
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BTW, I wonder what would have been the response/reaction of the pastor if the couple, who were persuaded by the pastor to have their children vaccinated, were to inform him afterwards that their child(ren) had been damaged by the vaccines that the pastor swayed them to get. Did this pastor, you mentioned, consider this possibility?
As someone has said: "We shouldn't be expected to set our children on fire to keep other children warm". As there are risks with every vaccine parents should not be coerced into vaccinating their children.
Where is the love for the vaccine injured children, in the church? Or would they rather deny that it was the vaccine(s) that harmed the child(ren).
Posted in: Tensions in Church Over Vaccinations
No they are not authoritative. However, they do show what the general public feeling was regarding measles, i.e. it was not regarded as a fearsome deadly disease.
Of course Wikipedia could hardly be regarded as authoritative on any subject. It is curious how once they introduce a vaccine then the propaganda starts exaggerating the disease to scare people into vaccinating for a disease that was regarded as benign before vaccination.
Regarding measles cases the Wikipedia you quoted is absolutely false. This graphs shows the reported cases of measles:
http://media.historyofvaccines.org/images/999991_540.jpg
This graph shows the US measles deaths which were negligible by the time the vaccine was introduced.
http://www.healthsentinel.com/joomla/images/stories/graphs/us-measles.jpg
Something precious that is lost with mass vaccination is the protection a baby was designed (by God) to receive. When a mother as a child has measles then she has immunity for life and passes on the immunity to her babies. However a vaccinated mother only has temporary immunity and can provide very little if any protection to her children. That is why typically before mass vaccination of childhood diseases mainly elementary school age children are affected. After mass vaccination the most vulnerable tend to be affected, due to inadequate maternal immunity.
In the developing world where children are often severely malnourished a child could die just from a bad cold.
Posted in: Tensions in Church Over Vaccinations
You are assuming that vaccines are actually effective. There have been many cases of epidemic of diseases such as measles and mumps in highly vaccinated environments, with the vaccinated being affected practically just as much as the unvaccinated.
In reality vaccines provide a false sense of security. Also a number of vaccines such as the MMR are live virus vaccines, i.e. can shed the virus for weeks.
Posted in: Tensions in Church Over Vaccinations
Someone has said: "We shouldn't be expected to set our children on fire to keep other children warm". As there are risks with every vaccine parents should not be coerced into vaccinating their children.
Posted in: Tensions in Church Over Vaccinations
There is also the issue of 'Original Antigenic Sin' that makes the vaccinated more vulnerable to the very diseases they were vaccinated against. A vaccinated person is not only able to catch the disease but can even get the disease more than once.
For more info read: http://vaccinechoicecanada.com/resources/books-periodicals/original-antigenic-sin-committed-by-vaccination/
Posted in: Tensions in Church Over Vaccinations
The following excerpt is from the American 1984 DHHS federal register, which listed final rules pertaining to the polio vaccination campaigns in USA after three decades of scandal and misinformation: http://lghttp.32478.nexcesscdn.net/80E972/organiclifestylemagazine/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/vaccine-article.png
"any possible doubts, whether or not well founded, about the safety of the vaccine cannot be allowed to exist in view of the need to assure the vaccine will continue to be used to the maximum extent consistent with the nation's public health objectives"
In other words deny any possible risk of vaccination - just vaccinate. Like putting one's head in the sand and hoping for the best.
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The slippery slope continues, it started with murdering the unborn (abortion), now moving towards that other end of life. How long will it be before people are killed against their will, such as is happening in countries that have already gone down this road? Will doctors be expected to 'refer' to another doctor willing to do the dreadful deed, similar to abortions? Thereby violating their freedom of conscience.
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The Flood could only be a Global flood as the rainbow was given as a promise that God would never flood the whole earth again. If it was only a local flood, then what about the promise God made as there have been many local floods since. Also it wouldn't be necessary to have an ark if the flood was only local.
Prejudice seems to be the case regarding the scientists you list. There are many more scientists who believe exactly what the Bible says related to origins and the flood etc. Not all scientists compromise regarding the Word of God.
In reality there is only one race, i.e. Adam's race. As all have descended from Adam. Science has already ascertained that actual science correlates with what the Bible says, which of course is not surprising as Almighty God is the ultimate scientist.
The Search for Adam and Eve", was a Newsweek article by John Tierney, Lynda Wright and Karen Springen. This article of January 11, 1988 stated: "Trained in molecular biology, they [scientists] looked at an international assortment of genes and picked up a trail of DNA that led to a single woman from whom we are all descended”.
Maternal mitochondria DNA is passed relatively unchanged in the female line only. Over time, mutations occur in the DNA of humans. How many mutations have occurred since Eve? How fast do mutations occur? In other words, what is the rate at which the mitochondrial DNA clock runs? If the number of mutations since Eve were known, then one could calculate how long ago mitochondrial Eve lived.
"Calibrating the Mitochondrial Clock", is a ‘Science’ article by Ann Gibson. Article of 2nd January 1998 stated: “Mitochondrial DNA appears to mutate faster than expected, prompting new DNA forensics procedures..." For example, researchers have calculated that mitochondrial Eve - the woman whose mtDNA was ancestral to that in all living people - lived ... using the new clock she would have lived a mere 6000 years ago.
If you do not accept this history (Genesis) and prefer to believe that man's body developed as a result of an evolutionary process you are still left with the question of how to explain Eve for the Bible is very particular as to the origin of Eve. D.M. Lloyd-Jones
“And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.” Genesis 2:21-23
Luke traces the family tree down through Heli, father of Mary, mother of Jesus, through David’s son Nathan, until we read in Luke 3:38
“... Seth, who was the son of Adam, who was the son of God.”
Therefore Adam, the son of God is related to the Son of God (our kinsman redeemer).
As Eve is related to Adam, Eve is also related to our kinsman redeemer.
"And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living." Genesis 3:20
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This is an example of evidence of a former land bridge: http://notexactlyrocketscience.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/channel.jpg?w=500&h=290
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Regarding Keith Miller whose book you claim is excellent, professed on the PBS program to be an ‘ardent evangelical Christian.’ He asserted, without evidence, that there are lots of transitional forms. When questioned, he said that God chose Adam and Eve out of other humans that existed. This just shows that the word ‘evangelical,’ like ‘Christian,’ has become debased currency. At one time it meant someone who believed the Reformation (and biblical) doctrines of the inerrancy and sufficiency of Scripture. This is not always so nowadays, and certainly doesn’t apply to Miller.
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Some great videos showing excellent evidence for a global flood:
A Universal Flood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ0Sp5n9ugs)
Global Flood: Fact or Fiction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4f00OXdj6U)
Raging Waters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XAIK-PfklE)
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The flood was definitely global. The ark wouldn't be necessary if the flood was only local. God could have instructed Noah to move away. It would seem rather ridiculous to have a 'local' flood lasting 371 days. Also what about the covenant God made that involves the rainbow. If the flood was only local, what about God's covenant as there have been many local floods since?
Genesis 9: 8 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying, 9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you; 10 and with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth. 11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth. 12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: 13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. 14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: 15 and I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth. 17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.
The Tigris and Euphrates rivers are unlikely the originals. They could have been simply named after original. Just as there is a city named 'London' in Kentucky; Ontario etc. We probably do not have the same rivers today, especially after the total reshaping of the planet that took place during the flood. As they had long life spans especially until the flood, Noah's father was born while Adam was still alive. Noah's family might have named the Tigris and Euphrates rivers as they reminded them of what Adam told Noah's father about the original rivers. BTW, do the current Tigris and Euphrates rivers match the account in Scripture.
Genesis 2:10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. 11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; 12 and the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone. 13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia. 14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel(Tigris): that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.