Thank you Cordelia, these are fine suggestions for children and adults, and should be included in the worship services. Your children will wonder why adult church is so one dimensional when they attend it.
I have advised churches on how to broaden the experiences of worship, and generally it has been ignored. Church leaders are afraid of dumbing down the service, having to deal with disgruntled adults, and needing to work at the idea. And so they choose the status quo.
Worship comes from the relationship we have with God. Kids don’t need the ‘how’, they need to meet the ‘who’. Change the programme from teaching, and worship will follow.
In our part of the world the coffee after Church has killed off the habit of taking someone (or an entire family) home for coffee, lunch and an enjoyable afternoon of friendship. We sometimes swapped kids, so that our children had a friend over for the day. It wasn’t unusual to be invited somewhere and bring the extra child along.
Much as I like the Church coffee time, I mourn the loss of the days with friends that we had in the past.
This is a very balanced approach. Our church heritage is also God-led, and ought to be acknowledged.
My only concern would be the lengthy explanations and intros. I worry that churches are so wordy that we crowd out the Spirit. But perhaps you addressed that with your 'slowness' comments. Faith grows in silences too.
The article is very superficial in its analysis. I agree that we need to move with our changing society, but it's not all about attracting converts or building attendance numbers.
My other gripe is his assertion that less preaching makes for better preaching. Those pastors who wrote 100-150 sermons and messages each year were excellent at exegesis and applying the Word of God. They had lots of practice, and an urgent need to rely on God's guidance every week. I would say they were the better preachers.
Thank you for this insight into a multigenerational church. Isn't it strange how we view this phenomenon, which used to be the norm.
Two things came to mind as I read it. Firstly, that you are part of the ministry team, and your husband the preacher. Therefore the church was serving their minister and his family, and we wouldn't expect less. But would the same assistance, love, and care be given to all families? The unwed mother of six from the wrong part of town, who can't get her life together? Personally, I have seen congregations falling over themselves to help the minister's family, while ignoring the needs of those they would rather not be part of their church.
My second thought was, where are the children? To speak of intergenerationality means children as well. You speak of yourselves as the younger generation, but there are the very young (including the one you just gave birth to!), and these also belong to the faith community. And they also have a vocation within that community.
As I reread this comment, I realised who did welcome the outcasts and the children. Jesus.
This is also true for children. My church makes few concessions for the children, arguing that if they attend for long enough they'll turn into real people, ie adults. We miss so much when we marginalise or ignore the little, weak, or elderly.
It's great that the library is available to teachers, however this article has some red flags for me, that you may consider. Firstly, the expectation that a Sunday school lesson can be prepared the night before or even 'on the spot'. Our children deserve better than that.
Secondly, the 'take homes'. In this article they are mentioned as being a surprise to the teacher, unwanted by some children, foisted on the parents ( I can't be bothered checking what's in them, your kids don't want them, but you should deal with them). I suggest you either use them properly and excite your students, or give them something more valuable to take home, such as a memorable lesson.
Thirdly, the budget. Should we really be penny pinching when it comes to discipling our kids? There's something wrong with the idea that a church treasurer would suggest that the savings made (by the teachers reading something from their iPad rather than printing a few sheets of paper), entitles them to ask for further resources. Just buy the darned story cards!
You have neatly written out the other half of the comment, regarding children. A related post from 2009 talked about official 'youth' attendees at synod who were aged 18 to 26. In my 'youth' I had four children and people of that age were the elders of the church. Nowadays youth lasts until you're forty.
Children should be attending synod, and they should be heard. I'm speaking about littlies aged 4-14. They don't need to be paid up, done their profession of faith, respectable, coached, scripted, and rehearsed. They can and should be asked for their opinion in matters that affect them, while respecting their tender years.
Come on, people! You are smart enough to figure out a way to make that happen!
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Thank you Cordelia, these are fine suggestions for children and adults, and should be included in the worship services. Your children will wonder why adult church is so one dimensional when they attend it.
I have advised churches on how to broaden the experiences of worship, and generally it has been ignored. Church leaders are afraid of dumbing down the service, having to deal with disgruntled adults, and needing to work at the idea. And so they choose the status quo.
Please bring these ideas into the main service.
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Lego, like sheep.
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Worship comes from the relationship we have with God. Kids don’t need the ‘how’, they need to meet the ‘who’. Change the programme from teaching, and worship will follow.
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In our part of the world the coffee after Church has killed off the habit of taking someone (or an entire family) home for coffee, lunch and an enjoyable afternoon of friendship. We sometimes swapped kids, so that our children had a friend over for the day. It wasn’t unusual to be invited somewhere and bring the extra child along.
Much as I like the Church coffee time, I mourn the loss of the days with friends that we had in the past.
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This is a very balanced approach. Our church heritage is also God-led, and ought to be acknowledged.
My only concern would be the lengthy explanations and intros. I worry that churches are so wordy that we crowd out the Spirit. But perhaps you addressed that with your 'slowness' comments. Faith grows in silences too.
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The article is very superficial in its analysis. I agree that we need to move with our changing society, but it's not all about attracting converts or building attendance numbers.
My other gripe is his assertion that less preaching makes for better preaching. Those pastors who wrote 100-150 sermons and messages each year were excellent at exegesis and applying the Word of God. They had lots of practice, and an urgent need to rely on God's guidance every week. I would say they were the better preachers.
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Thank you for this insight into a multigenerational church. Isn't it strange how we view this phenomenon, which used to be the norm.
Two things came to mind as I read it. Firstly, that you are part of the ministry team, and your husband the preacher. Therefore the church was serving their minister and his family, and we wouldn't expect less. But would the same assistance, love, and care be given to all families? The unwed mother of six from the wrong part of town, who can't get her life together? Personally, I have seen congregations falling over themselves to help the minister's family, while ignoring the needs of those they would rather not be part of their church.
My second thought was, where are the children? To speak of intergenerationality means children as well. You speak of yourselves as the younger generation, but there are the very young (including the one you just gave birth to!), and these also belong to the faith community. And they also have a vocation within that community.
As I reread this comment, I realised who did welcome the outcasts and the children. Jesus.
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Brilliant!
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This is also true for children. My church makes few concessions for the children, arguing that if they attend for long enough they'll turn into real people, ie adults. We miss so much when we marginalise or ignore the little, weak, or elderly.
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It's great that the library is available to teachers, however this article has some red flags for me, that you may consider. Firstly, the expectation that a Sunday school lesson can be prepared the night before or even 'on the spot'. Our children deserve better than that.
Secondly, the 'take homes'. In this article they are mentioned as being a surprise to the teacher, unwanted by some children, foisted on the parents ( I can't be bothered checking what's in them, your kids don't want them, but you should deal with them). I suggest you either use them properly and excite your students, or give them something more valuable to take home, such as a memorable lesson.
Thirdly, the budget. Should we really be penny pinching when it comes to discipling our kids? There's something wrong with the idea that a church treasurer would suggest that the savings made (by the teachers reading something from their iPad rather than printing a few sheets of paper), entitles them to ask for further resources. Just buy the darned story cards!
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If there should be a full representation of the church where are the women and children?
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You have neatly written out the other half of the comment, regarding children. A related post from 2009 talked about official 'youth' attendees at synod who were aged 18 to 26. In my 'youth' I had four children and people of that age were the elders of the church. Nowadays youth lasts until you're forty.
Children should be attending synod, and they should be heard. I'm speaking about littlies aged 4-14. They don't need to be paid up, done their profession of faith, respectable, coached, scripted, and rehearsed. They can and should be asked for their opinion in matters that affect them, while respecting their tender years.
Come on, people! You are smart enough to figure out a way to make that happen!