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“Should my church sing songs by those who have perpetrated abuse? How should we handle resources or songs by, for instance, Hillsong, Bethel, or David Haas?”  

These are questions we have frequently received in our roles with Worship Ministry and Safe Church. We know they're asked often because you as church leaders are working to make wise choices for your congregation. You recognize the importance of what you sing and say in worship. We are grateful for this intentionality and hope that the following will serve as a helpful tool in your discernment. 

We want to acknowledge upfront that these are hard questions to answer. Because of that, we encourage you to prayerfully discern in community with other leaders in your congregation. This decision should not be made alone. There are pastoral, ethical, financial, and practical concerns that each need to be considered as a piece of a larger conversation.

Our hope is that this article will help you ask good questions as you discern together. We do not intend to provide a “yes” or “no” answer. We offer up these considerations recognizing that every situation, context, and congregation is different and might come to different conclusions. As you engage in the hard and holy work of discernment, we encourage you to consider the following. 

#1 Trauma-Informed Worship

When making this decision, we must be mindful of Paul’s words that “when one part of the body suffers, all parts suffer with it.” Corporate worship is meant to be exactly that—corporate and communal. Be mindful of the members of your congregation and their lived-experience and trauma.

Statistics show that at least 25% of your members have experienced some form of abuse. As a leader, you might be aware of some situations but many are kept private. Oftentimes survivors of abuse hold their stories in confidence, struggling to make sense of the pain, harm, and suffering they endured. Silence does not mean these experiences are any less real or painful. 

We need to ask how singing songs written by those who have perpetrated abuse might not just distract from worship, but also be damaging to the emotional and spiritual health of survivors. What are we communicating to them about the seriousness and validity of their stories? What messages are we sending about the care and trustworthiness of their spiritual community of faith to hold these stories and walk alongside them? What does this say about how the church responds to allegations and situations of abuse? If the church leadership decides to continue using these songs in worship, how might you communicate this decision in a way that will allow worship to remain a safe and healthy space for all worshippers, particularly those who have experienced abuse?

#2- Trauma-Informed Decision Making: Imperfect Person, Imperfect Worship?

One comment we hear often is that every songwriter has a sinful past and a sinful present. If we start taking songs out of our congregational song diet because they were written by sinful people, we would have nothing left to sing—Psalms included! And that is true. Here are some considerations for using resources from a person who has an abusive history. 

Can you receive the necessary data to separate the abuse from the abuser, the sin from the person? Simply separating the person from their work on the grounds that everyone is sinful does not do justice to the people who have been harmed. We need to take into consideration several important factors: 

  • What is the underlying narrative of a written work or song? Are the words, themes, or sentiments expressed in the song that might be triggering and harmful in light of the allegations of abuse?  
  • What were the processes of reconciliation taken by the person who caused harm? Were steps taken to hold them accountable? Was there repentance? Or was there continued denial and neglect of responsibility?
  • Have steps been taken by the organization or the person to begin the work of reconciliation? What advocacy steps have been taken to protect and promote healing for survivors?

If your leadership team decides that as a congregation you are able to separate the author from their song, what pastoral steps do you need to take to care for victims in your pews? 

  • Some may be able to separate a song from its author more easily than others. Are you sensitive to re-traumatization from current and future members that might come through your doors? You might consider sharing a playlist in advance of Sunday. This not only prepares your congregation to sing well, but also allows those who might be triggered to make wise and safe choices for themselves.
  • What steps might your community take to hear the voices of survivors and people who have been affected by abuse? Will this decision give them safe spaces to continue to share their stories and feel that they are heard, believed, and cared for?
  • Making these decisions around singing songs is only one step we as churches need to take. If our sole focus is on *if* we can sing these songs, we fail to address the underlying systems which allowed for the abuse in the first place. What active steps are you as a congregation taking to not only prevent abuse within your walls, but also speak out against it in the communities around you?

#3- Trauma-Informed Decision Making: Where is the Spirit at Work?

One of the reasons many churches choose to continue singing these songs is because they have become congregational heart songs. There are so many songs that are worshipful, solid, and have faithfully led God's people in worship. Praise God for that! God has worked through broken and sinful songwriters for centuries, and they have given us songs to sing that encourage our faith, move us through the Spirit, and help us to worship with the fullest of heart. God works in broken spaces.

For that reason, it can be hard to let go in places where you sense the Holy Spirit at work. Maybe this is the reason you choose to keep them in your rotation right now, recognizing that this is a season where your congregation can and needs to sing these song as a part of their faith formation. Maybe you learned one of these songs before the pandemic, and it held your congregation’s voices together through months—or even years—of separation. Maybe you sang it at a funeral, baptism, or commissioning service. And in those notes and lyrics, your congregation is reminded of God’s faithfulness and presence through both difficult and joyful times. 

As you move forward, can you think strategically? Are there other options out there? Are there good substitutes you can start to work in slowly over time with the goal of phasing out some of your current beloveds? New music is released every day. It too will come from broken and sinful songwriters but potentially with less emotional and spiritual baggage. Can you start to be strategic in the long term without making quick decisions in the short term? 

#4- Trauma-Informed Stewardship

The royalties question is a real one—and a real concern. If you are paying CCLI (and other) licenses and doing your regular reporting—and we think you should!—the reality is that you are paying into the system. Even if it’s a very small amount, every time you sing a song, there is profit to the organization. And rightly so! Artists deserve to be paid for their work and recognized for their contributions. So yes, you could sing them and not report/pay, but not only are you cheating someone out of what they are rightly due, but you’ve also crossed a legality line in terms of copyright. This is often the deal-breaker for churches so it’s a consideration we encourage you to take seriously. 

#5- Integrating a Trauma-Informed Strategy

Appoint a small team to prayerfully discern and come up with a strategy for implementation and pastoral care. Again, we want to stress the importance of involving multiple voices within your church when making these decisions.  It should not fall on the worship leader/worship planner alone because there are pastoral, spiritual, and financial considerations that impact the whole church community. Recognize as a team that there is no “one size fits all” answer to this ministry question and you need to prayerfully discern what is the right decision for your congregation. 

Communicate clearly about decisions made. Give ample space for conversations and concerns. Be abundantly sensitive to the stories of survivors. Remain open to the work and movement of the Holy Spirit. 

As you discern, know that we are grateful for the many ways you are leading your congregation to faithfully gather to worship our Triune God in spirit and truth.


I am really thankful for this post. We have started to have some of these conversations in our church but this nuanced post will help us take the conversation farther. 

Any way that we could collectively brainstorm some alternative artists, resources, etc. for this? I am loving Porter's Gate and Common Hymnal a lot right now for this. 

Thanks for the article. Some of the concerns I've heard voiced in the past is that when we sing Hillsong, Bethel, etc. we are endorsing their ministry which preaches a false gospel. One person noted they preach a prosperity gospel and hold other errors. 

I've never looked into such claims and don't comment on their truthfulness. My question is, if they're right and Hillsong and some others preach a false gospel message, should that negate us from singing their theologically sound songs? 

The question "should that negate us from singing their theologically sound songs" is a legitimate question. Though the article raises some important questions, it also implies a "guilt by association" theory that does not stand up to biblical notions of justice. The article could do with more discernment.

If Brian Houston, or Carl Lenz, are guilty of financial or sexual abuse does this mean that song writers, singers and the fellowships at Hillsong churches are complicit participants in their inappropriate actions? 

Secondly, does unsound doctrine on the part of some, or even a denomination, mean the song is thereby scripturally unsound?

Can the author of this article point me to court documents, where Brian Houston, or Carl Lenz where found guilty of any charges - except a DUI charge? Did the authors and others rely on "Documentaries". Have the writers of the songs, or have the singers of the songs been found guilty of crimes? No, then why are we casting stones? Why are we relying on Documentaries as opposed to actual facts to lead us in our decision-making on the music, the worship music? Yes, there is an accusation against Brian Houston's father - not Brian but his father. 

The music, created and performed by the band is incredible. They bring the new generations 13-25 closer to God and they also touch the souls of many grey-haired generation people 55+ years old and older. 

So what if Carl Lenz and Brian Houston have made millions of dollars in this crazy world, congratulations if that was what they were aiming for and have achieved. So has Bono and band mates of U2. 

As 1000s of churches of all denominations are being forced to close their doors because they did not adapt to the world around them, that includes worship music that engaged our youth, let CRC not be one of them.

This does not mean we can not have some of the old and beautiful psalms and hymns from the 1500-1800s, no, rather incorporate both the old and the new songs into our worship!

Remember Jesus was considered "an outsider, a rebel, an oddball" and many other adjectives in His Ministry, and all of His Apostles were also classified as threats to society and were hunted down for their beliefs and sermons! Can you imagine what type of Documentary would have been conducted in those days!!

So sing like no one is listening, dance as if no one is watching to songs that praise our Lord and Saviour! 

I Surrender, Mighty to Save, Broken Vessels, Jesus I need You, Don't forget Morning has Broken either the original or Cat Stevens version :-) 


Jeffrey Thomson

Waterloo, Ontario

Just some of the songs this 62 year old enjoys singing.

As a survivor of religious trauma and spiritual abuse that involved Bethel Church in CA, I am thankful for this conversation which raises awareness of the complexity of a survivor's re-entry into church.  I'm in my 11th year recovering and worshiping with certain songs is still something I cannot do.  Being the only one who isn't visibly comfortable with these worship songs often feels isolating and conspicuous.  On the other hand, knowing folks are asking questions about singing these songs because of their connection to religious trauma and abuse helps me feel less alone.  

Hi Erin;

I have been praying over responding to your post to make sure I do not cause any trauma or revisit any issues you had and have. 

First, I am truly sorry to hear that you suffered and still suffer at the hands of another. I know the feeling of having been physically abused by an uncle when I was a child. I can not know your personal suffering as that is personal to the victims. 

I do understand, that those who have suffered trauma(s) of any sort, will have triggers that will bring back those horrible days. I am sad to hear that it is music that is a trigger for you, specifically certain music. 

I am happy to hear that you are still worshipping and trusting in God. I have no solution to offer when those songs or triggers occur, but I do hope that your congregation can find a solution to help you as well as maintain a safe and understanding environment for you and others who may also be suffering. Maybe the worship team can mix up the song lists each week.

I didn't want to leave your courageous post to go unanswered, to make you feel isolated. You are not alone Erin. 


Royalties - this is a topic that many people are not familiar with, as it is a complex system of payment to the Music Company and the Artist that wrote the song's lyrics, and the Artist that created the music, and the producers, directors, and anyone involved in the creation of the song. 

"The royalties question is a real one" it is a real question that should not be overlooked. It is part of the "Business side of the Church". Having worked in the music industry back in the 1990s, managing the systems that controlled the royalties. Royalties were considered a very real problem for many artists, popular or just starting out. In 1993 it was estimated that over 10 Billion $US in unpaid royalties were owed to 1000s of artists, including very large names! The late David Bowie was owed an undisputed amount of $35 million in unpaid royalties, with another $50-75 Million unaccounted for. I can not imagine the valuation of unpaid and lost Royalties today! The music industry is "cutthroat" and will prosecute those who do not pay the royalties that the music company "deems they are due from you and CRC". CRC is not off the hook either as the lawyers know who has the deeper pockets. So if you are a congregation that decides not to pay the royalties, then do NOT play the music - for you are stealing from whatever artist you are singing to as part of your worship.  Cheating is just another word for stealing - Remember the words in Leviticus;

Leviticus 19:11-13 King James Version (KJV)

"Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another..."

Should your church decides to not pay but continue to play then your stewards need to be asked - have we paid our royalties? 

CRC would be wise, to conduct an informal audit - before the Music Industry comes singing their song of Pay the Piper! Worship Music has grown dramatically since the 1990s and the industry has not missed the sales of sheet music, album sales, and the use of Youtube - yes if you use Youtube videos for your worship, you have to pay for that use as well - each time.

In closing do not be afraid to play whatever your congregation and church decide, just remember to be honest about what you are doing. 


Jeffrey Thomson

Waterloo, Ontario. 

" Employed at EMI Music Canada 1990-1996"

While appreciating the article, a question that I would pose is, "Do we let the bad overshadow the good?" As I recall, we are all sinners. While some sins do greater harm to others, to ourselves, and to society at large, sin is sin. It is missing the mark, falling short of the glory of God. I can appreciate and give thanks to the Lord for worshipful music and acknowledge the giftedness of the composer without condoning or dismissing her or his sin(s). I do not wish to be part of a body of believers that always seeks out and calls attention to the worst in individuals. The scriptures provide guidance to the church on how to respond to sin. I shall leave it up to the body to which they are accountable. Meanwhile, I'm still working to vacuum up the dust that soils my own house.

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