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FYI: I shared the chart of authentein Scripture translations in PART 7 comments as that usage entirely CONTEXT 1 - people to people relationships...  Getting the Whole Picture, Part 7: The Shift Continues | CRC Network So if you are interested, check out the comments in PART 7.

I hope to drop a list of 100+ Chrysostom's uses (around 70 uses are CONTEXT 3 related to God as some form of Absolute Sovereignty) in the comments here later for anyone who might be interested. This list is something that I could not find anywhere else, other than some references to Chrysostom using authente in several sermons related to 1 Timothy 2 and husband/wife relations. But thanks to TLG, I could compile Chrysostom's 100+ uses, then drop them into AI to translate into English to help me with context and meaning.  Coming soon... but might be a few days as the format from excel does not copy into the comments coherently!

Thank you for sharing this. Thankfully there is a healthy shift going on regarding the expression of church ministry, including an emphasis on collaborating and cooperating with one another instead of competing and comparing! This gives space for a beautiful and powerful synergy between brothers and sisters in the family of God.

Something I would like to encourage Thrive/ CRC to consider as part of the paradigm shift is using "ministry leader" instead of "lay leader." Lots of reasons why, but it's something that helps create unity in the family instead of a clergy/laity divide.

oh Carol, what a heartbreaking nightmare for you, your family and community! Prayers for deep healing in your community as the grief and trauma continues long, long after the shooting. 

The grief from loss of life, along with continued suffering and trauma of those injured physically and/or emotionally never completely goes away as the deep scars remain but change over time and can become beautiful compassion and sensitivity for the hurting.

Love this, Sarah! Thanks for sharing! There are so many amazing experiences, perspectives, and testimonies of how Holy Spirit works in and through us for God's glory and our good!

I'm looking forward to insights, thoughts that others will share on Made New: Life in the Spirit!

Thanks for sharing these resources and support opportunities Sarah.

I encourage women who are looking for a team to encourage and support one another, to look for the "other boats" that often get overlooked and receive little attention for various reasons. Often these are the intercessors, chaplains, local ministry directors and staff. Find them and connect with them regularly! Mark 4:36 After they had dismissed the crowd, they took Jesus with them, since He was already in the boat. And there were other boats with Him.

Each community is unique, so look for the other boats (not just pastors, elders, deacons), and gather intercessors, chaplains, ministry directors/staff together regularly for prayer, encouragement and supporting one another as the beautiful blend of the family of God in your community! I have the privilege of being part of several of these groups where I live and walk alongside women and men that serve the Kingdom in these various ways.

FYI some notes on pagan practices mentioned in ancient documents to give an idea of some of the things the early church wrestled with:

DIDACHE (85 AD-200 AD): The Didache in English; CH 2: you shall not practice witchcraft, you shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill that which is born. CH 3: My child, be not superstitious, since it leads to idolatry. Be neither an enchanter, nor an astrologer... CH 5: idolatries, magic arts, witchcrafts... murderers of children (ie through abandonment and exposure)... 

CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA (202 AD): The writings of Clement of Alexandria : Clement, of Alexandria, Saint, ca. 150-ca. 215 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive ; especially chapter III The Cruelty of the Sacrifices to the gods; Exhortation to the Heathens, p48-49

COUNCIL OF NICAEA: CHURCH FATHERS: First Council of Nicaea (A.D. 325) Canon 1, there is a history here of at least several hundred years on this disturbing pagan practice and I find it interesting that this is the issue the council lists as the first canon that indicates it is still part of the problem for the early church in 325 AD, because it was part of the problem in Paul's time as well, which I have not included anywhere in the series and probably won't other than here to say the practice was also part of the toxic mess in Ephesus connected to one of the goddesses and Nicaea was still dealing with it a few hundred years later.

AUTHENTE CONTEXTS 2 & 3 up next...

I want to share a list of how authentein has been translated in various versions of the Bible compared to how lording it over and exercise authority are translated in Matt 20:25. Interestingly it mostly lines up with the lording it over, more than the exercise authority over... 

here's a fairly extensive list from about 150AD to modern versions, NOTE: general  "have authority" or "exercise authority" is primarily the last 125 years, Erasmus introduced authority but qualified it with usurp as illegitimate, taken unlawfully, by force, the Geneva (1587) and King James (1611) and a few others also used usurp after that with a few using just "authority" from 1526-1903...

VERSION / TYPE / YEAR / 1 Tim 2:12 authority? / Matt 20:25 lord over / Matt 20:25 exercise authority

GREEK / ORIGINAL / 50 AD-100 AD / AUTHENTEIN / KATAKYRIEUOUSIN / KATEXOUSIAZOUSIN 

Old Latin / ANCIENT / 150-250 / dominari / dominantur / petestatem exercent

Syriac / ANCIENT / 170-200 / NO TRANSLATION for authentein

Coptic / ANCIENT / 170-300 / dominate / lord over / rule harshly, dominate

Syriac Peshitta/ ANCIENT/ 300-400 / be authoritative, domineering / lord over / exercise dominion

Ethiopic / ANCIENT / 300-500 / lord over/dominate / rule over/dominate harshly / oppressive power over

Vulgate -Jerome / Latin / 400 / dominari / dominantur eorum / potestatem exercent

Armenian / ANCIENT / 410-440 / dominate/lord over / dominate/lord over / exercise power, authority

Georgian / ANCIENT / 400-600 / dominate/lord over / dominate/lord over / exercise dominion

Arabic / 867 AD / dominating/mastery over / dominate/control harshly / command imperiously

Cyril & Methodius / Old Slavonic / 863-900 / lord over, dominate / lord it over / exercise authority over

Wycliffe / ENGLISH / 1380-1384 / lordship on husband / lordis of hem / usen power on hem

Erasmus / Greek/Latin / 1516 / usurp authority / Same as Greek/Latin / Same as Greek/Latin

Tyndale / Early / 1526 / have authority / dominacio over / exercise power

Coverdale / Early / 1535 / have authority / domynacion of people / exercise power among

Bishops / Early / 1568 / usurp authority / dominion over / exercise aucthoritie

Geneva / Early / 1587 / usurp authority / have domination over / exercise authoritie

Douay Rheims / Modern / 1609 / use authority / lord it over / exercise authority over

KJV / Classic / 1611 / usurp authority / exercise dominion over / exercise authority over

Webster / Classic / 1833 / usurp authority / exercise dominion over / exercise authority over

Youngs Literal / Literal / 1862 / rule a husband / exercise lordship over / exercise authority over

English Revised / Classic / 1885 / have dominion / lord it over / exercise authority over

ASV / Classic / 1901 / have dominion / lord it over / exercise authority over

Weymouth / Modern / 1903 / have authority / lord it over / exercise authority over

New American / Modern / 1970 / have authority / domineer over / exercise authority over

NKJV / Classic / 1982 / have authority / lord it over / exercise authority over

NIV 1984 / Modern / 1984 / have authority / lord it over / exercise authority over

NRSV / Modern / 1989 / have authority / lord it over / great ones tyrants over

NASB / Modern / 1995 / exercise authority / lord it over / exercise authority over

NET / Modern / 1995 / exercise authority / lord it over / use authority over

Cont English / Modern / 1995 / tell men what to do / order people around / full power & rule over

New Heart English / Public / 2010 / exercise authority / lord it over / exercise authority over

ISV / Modern / 2011 / instigate conflict / lord it over / superiors acts as tyrants over

NIV 2011 / Modern / 2011 / assume authority / lord it over / exercise authority over / Literal SV

Literal / 2020 / rule a husband / exercise lordship over / exercise authority over

World English / Classic / 1901, 2016 / exercise authority / lord it over / exercise authority over

NASB / Modern / 1961, 1995, 2020 / exercise authority / lord it over / exercise authority over

AMP / Modern / 1965, 2015 / exercise authority / absolute power / lord over / exercise authority over

Good News / Modern / 1966, 1976 / have authority / have power over / complete authority

NASB / Modern / 1971, 1977, 1995, 2020 / exercise authority / lord it over / exercise authority over

NLT / Modern / 1996, 2004, 2015 / have authority / lord it over / flaunt authority over

Holman / Modern / 1999-2009 / have authority / dominate them / exercise power over

ESV / Modern / 2001, 2016 / exercise authority / lord it over / exercise authority over

Christian Std / Modern / 2009, 2017 / have authority / lord it over / acts as tyrants over

Berean Standard / Modern / 2016, 2020 / exercise authority / lord it over / exercise authority over

Berean literal / Literal / 2016, 2020 / use authority / exercise lordship / exercise authority over

For those interested: Here is an extensive but not exhaustive list of post Paul uses. I researched most of them but not all of them. I encourage you to do your own research. If you find anything insightful and interesting, please share it in the comments to help us learn together. Your thoughts and questions are appreciated!

AUTHENTEO/AUTHENTES MEANING /POST PAUL/ AUTHOR; GENRE; SOURCE

AUTHENTEIN TBD /61-63AD/ Apostle Paul/I Timothy 2:12

rulership of one planet over another, superior… /??50 BC-/ 100 +AD??/ Methodus Mystica/ Astrological/toxic cocktail syncretism (date is uncertain) Hermeticism - New World Encyclopedia

absolute sovereignty above all things /50- 100 AD/ Cerinthus/early Gnostic in Ephesus; per Irenaeus' Against Heresies (180 AD)

– “perpetrator of crime” /75-80AD/ Flavius Josephus; Jewish Wars (BJ. 1.582.1)

– “perpetrator of slaughter” /75-80AD/ Flavius Josephys; Jewish Wars (BJ.2.240.5)

masters, leaders re the moon /80-120 AD/ Dorotheus of Sidon/Astrological; Carmen Astrologicum

Supreme deity, absolute sovereignty /100-120 AD/ Saturninus, Syrian Gnostic; Per Irenaeus Against Heresies (180AD)

Master /Lord of tower (church) allegory referring to Jesus /140-155AD/ Hermas, Christian, brother to Bishop Pius 1; Shepherd of Hermas (some erroneously dated this earlier as 40-60AD)

– “perpetrator of evil” /150-165 AD/ Appian of Alexander/historian; Mithrades 90.1

– “murderer” x 2 times /150-165 AD/ Appian of Alexander/historian; History of Rome (BC.1.7.61.7; 1.13.115.17)

– “slayer”150-165 AD/ Appian of Alexander/historian; History of Rome (BC. 3.2.16.13)

– “slayer of oneself” /150-165 AD/ Appian of Alexander/historian; History of Rome (BC. 4.17.134.40)

authoritative/dominates (BAGD) re Saturn /150-170 AD/ Ptolemy/Astronomy, mathematician; Tetrabiblos III 13.338

dominance/mastery re astrology 150-170 AD/ Ptolemy/Astronomy, mathematician; Tetrabiblos 3.14.10

supervisory authority re planets /150-175 AD/ Vettius Valens/astrology; Anthology

see Cerinthus and Saturninus /180 AD/ Irenaeus (Church Father; Against Heresies (180AD) citing early gnostics

murder through using others /100-200 AD/ Harpocration/Grammarian re Lysias /orator (445-380 BC); Lexicon

perpetrates the murder /100-200 AD/ Harpocration/Grammarian re Lysias /orator (445-380 BC); Suda

independent jurisdiction, self- determination /100-200 AD/ Moeris Atticista Lexicon Atticum/Grammarian

supreme authority, highest source /100-300 AD/ Poimandres (Astrological Hermetic Gnostic text); Corpus Hermeticum

CLEMENT USED BOTH MEANINGS:

(angels) are murderers/perpetrators of violent acts /190-200 AD/ Clement of Alexandria/ Chr theologian/ philosopher/ Stromata 2.8.38.5-6

mutual authority between husband and wife per 1 Cor 7:4 /190-200 AD/ Clement of Alexandria/ Chr theologian/ philosopher/ Stromata 3.18.106.2-3

self-murderer (authentes) and suicide (autophoneus) /190-200 AD/ Clement of Alexandria/ Chr theologian/ philosopher/ Stromata 4.4.16.3-4

(Scriptures) omnipotent authority 190-200 AD/ Clement of Alexandria/ Chr theologian/ philosopher/ Stromata 4.1.2.2-4

Rightful sovereign authority/power/mastery of the Lord /190-200 AD/ Clement of Alexandria/ Chr theologian/philosopher/Paedagogus 2.3.36.1-4

awareness of authenteo but no use in 1 Tim 2 /185-254 AD/ Origen

– “one who murders by his own hand” /100-200AD/ Phrynichus Arabius/Grammarian, rhetorician

lord/master over slave (w inhumane cruelty added as descriptor) /217-235 AD/ Hippolytus of Rome

supreme authority /200-300 AD/ Pseudo Clement

Divine power/sovereignty of God/Christ /296-373 AD/ Athanasius of Alexandria

exercise of improper power/(doctrinal/eccl.) supreme authority /296-373 AD/ Athanasius of Alexandria

murder /317-388 AD/ Themistius/Statesman, rhetorician, philosopher

dealing with murder /300-400AD/ Sopater Atheniensis/Rhetorician

destroyer of the Phocians /315-386 AD/ Himerius/Sophist

Absolute, Divine, Equal, Sovereign, Supreme /380-407 AD/ John Chrysostom (120+ uses); Authente family referring to Jesus Christ 60+, God & Holy Spirit 10+)

delegated limited servant level authority /380-407 AD/ John Chrysostom (120+ uses); Homiliies on satan

Authority of God's Divine truth, Scripture, law /380-407 AD/ John Chrysostom (120+ uses); Homilies in general

Bold, forceful rebuke to confront sin /380-407 AD/ John Chrysostom (120+ uses); Homilies re Apostle Paul

encouraged a pastoral, gentler, restrained, tempered response/authority instead of authentes /380-407 AD/ John Chrysostom (120+ uses); Homilies re Apostle Paul, Peter, Andrew, Timothy, elders, leaders

deacon/leaders abusing authority/power /380-407 AD/ John Chrysostom (120+ uses); letter to Pope Innocent re trial by eccl leaders

Eve influenced and taught man badly once, so now restricted and submits to prevent error /380-407 AD/ John Chrysostom (120+ uses); Gen 3/ I Tim 2-14 re Adam & Eve

neither believing husband or wife are to authentei over each other, prohibited for both /380-407 AD/ John Chrysostom (120+ uses); Homilies on 1 Timothy & Colossians re husband and wife relationships

ok to teach husband if a non- believer /380-407 AD/ John Chrysostom (120+ uses); Homilies on 1 Timothy

avoid authentein, esp w unbelievers; serve instead of authentias /380-407 AD/ John Chrysostom (120+ uses); Homilies on Colossians & 1 Timothy; re family of God & Episkope

prohibited action of women (elderly widows) cannot teach men /380-407 AD/ John Chrysostom (120-150 uses); Homilies on 1 Timothy 5 and 2:12 re widows

autonomous freedom making sinful choices /380-407 AD/ John Chrysostom (120-150 uses); Homilies on 1 Timothy 5:6 re young widows

arrogant, demanding authentias compared to Paul's gentler approach /380-407 AD/ John Chrysostom (120-150 uses); Homilies re exploitive & false teachers

Trinitarian / ecclesial context … /350-379 AD/ Basil the Great

…for supreme authority/sovereignty /350-390 AD/ Gregory of Nazianzus

Not proficient in Greek, consulted w Jerome & lexicons to help him /354-430 AD/ Augustine of Hippo (Latin > didn’t know much Greek)

dominates /490-570 AD/ Joannes Philoponus/ Philosophical writer

cause murders through agency of others /445-380 BC/10th cent AD/ Lysias/Orator via Suda/Byzantine Lexicon

ANCIENT TRANSLATIONS:

dominari /150-> 250AD/ Old Latin/ Vetus Latina (series of independent versions)

dominari in virum /382-405 AD/ Jerome/Latin Vulgate

be authoritative over w a sense of a negative domineering /300-400 AD/ Syriac Peshitta

to be lord, or to lord it over/be master over /170-300AD/ Coptic

rule over or have dominion over /300-500 AD/ Ethiopic

to dominate or have mastery over /600-900AD/ Arabic

to dominate or rule over /400-414 AD/ Mesrop Mashtots, etc

have power over to rule/domineer /350-383 AD/ Ulfilas

domineer/lord over /400-500 AD/ Georgian

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