If there was no macro evolution, then all species have existed together at some point. God would have had to create over time or the ark would have to be bigger plus the fossils should show modern animals with the dinosaurs. You people realize this isn't that important to what we are supposed to be doing?
Well here,s my rebuke. What I refering to Is Mr Cooper is no more qualified than anyone eles in these matters including me and you. You took my words anjd applied them as if i'm degrading Mr. Cooper. You keep missing the point. This is a issue of the heart not the mind. Randy, I'm not going to treat you like your treating me so if you want to get angry go ahead. I would like you to lay it all out Randy. I will continue to pray for everyone and suggest praying to everyone.I'm broken and your broken Randy so that is the problem. I will admit to sinfulness but can you?
Merit is pretty subjective would not you agree? Take pastors and elders roles in church order, pastors make all kind of assumptions based on a perceived merit. You argued against this previously.
Rob don't be embarrassed about the apparent conflict of ideology. They mesh quite naturally. We are not giving them our representation but allowing them to have representation.
I suspect you guys will object to this this kind of reasoning, But if we are equals in Christ lets find a common ground to frame this discussion in a context respect and realization that not one of us is completely objective.
Thanks Dutch, I was asking rhetorically. I knew who he was from the article and researched him extensively. I respect accomplished people but I know wisdom and knowledge are distinctly different. The kind of leadership and insite on some of these issue's are matters of the heart not the brain. Thanks Dutch you are someone I can relate to.
So you believe that the people pushing this Belhar are giving lip service to racism and that the Bible does not give the poor a "special" treatment. You also think the Belhar as being an agenda of liberation theology by the people who promote the it. You also believe the Belhar should have been a testimony and not a confession. You believe it lacks theological adequacy and is also ambiguous because as you say one of the writers has a different approach to homosexuality. You also indicate that this may stem from one main incident. You are also concerned about the Contempt. confession being abandoned when it speaks to this issue of racism. You also indicate that we or some of us do not understand the how isidious racism is. Did I miss anything Randy?
Mark is pointing out the how disabled people are judged incomplete persons with those kind of statements at funerals. We all know about our spiritual incompleteness but these statements reflect added emphasizes to the view of disabled individuals. If they would say this at everyone's funeral that would be different. Remember, this isn't about what pastors say at funerals but hidden bias in our every day thought that create false images of value. These things seem innocuous until your on the receiving end.
This actually, brings up a lot of profound questions. Like what are we now?(brain,body,soul) Remember, depended on senses that available determines what we know. Imagine a human without any input. Lots of questions about what we will be in Heaven are important to the decisions we make now.
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If there was no macro evolution, then all species have existed together at some point. God would have had to create over time or the ark would have to be bigger plus the fossils should show modern animals with the dinosaurs. You people realize this isn't that important to what we are supposed to be doing?
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Thx Mark for the information!
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Mark, you did nothing wrong! The facts are apparent in a lot of locations. Keep up the great work!
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Randy,
Well here,s my rebuke. What I refering to Is Mr Cooper is no more qualified than anyone eles in these matters including me and you. You took my words anjd applied them as if i'm degrading Mr. Cooper. You keep missing the point. This is a issue of the heart not the mind. Randy, I'm not going to treat you like your treating me so if you want to get angry go ahead. I would like you to lay it all out Randy. I will continue to pray for everyone and suggest praying to everyone.I'm broken and your broken Randy so that is the problem. I will admit to sinfulness but can you?
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Thank you, Dutch,
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Hi John and Rob,
Merit is pretty subjective would not you agree? Take pastors and elders roles in church order, pastors make all kind of assumptions based on a perceived merit. You argued against this previously.
Rob don't be embarrassed about the apparent conflict of ideology. They mesh quite naturally. We are not giving them our representation but allowing them to have representation.
I suspect you guys will object to this this kind of reasoning, But if we are equals in Christ lets find a common ground to frame this discussion in a context respect and realization that not one of us is completely objective.
Ken
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Thanks Dutch, I was asking rhetorically. I knew who he was from the article and researched him extensively. I respect accomplished people but I know wisdom and knowledge are distinctly different. The kind of leadership and insite on some of these issue's are matters of the heart not the brain. Thanks Dutch you are someone I can relate to.
Ken
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So you believe that the people pushing this Belhar are giving lip service to racism and that the Bible does not give the poor a "special" treatment. You also think the Belhar as being an agenda of liberation theology by the people who promote the it. You also believe the Belhar should have been a testimony and not a confession. You believe it lacks theological adequacy and is also ambiguous because as you say one of the writers has a different approach to homosexuality. You also indicate that this may stem from one main incident. You are also concerned about the Contempt. confession being abandoned when it speaks to this issue of racism. You also indicate that we or some of us do not understand the how isidious racism is. Did I miss anything Randy?
Ken
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Who is John Cooper?
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Wow, that surprises me Max would think that! Thx Mark
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Tyl,
Mark is pointing out the how disabled people are judged incomplete persons with those kind of statements at funerals. We all know about our spiritual incompleteness but these statements reflect added emphasizes to the view of disabled individuals. If they would say this at everyone's funeral that would be different. Remember, this isn't about what pastors say at funerals but hidden bias in our every day thought that create false images of value. These things seem innocuous until your on the receiving end.
Ken
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Gentlemen,
This actually, brings up a lot of profound questions. Like what are we now?(brain,body,soul) Remember, depended on senses that available determines what we know. Imagine a human without any input. Lots of questions about what we will be in Heaven are important to the decisions we make now.